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Old 06-28-2019, 06:27 AM
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Default Remote operated ball valve

I was wondering if anyone has ever put a remote operated ball valve in any of their jets and had it work reliably? I was trying to figure something out, but can't seem to wrap my head around how to make it work well.
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This could be done by using the same fuel valves that turbines use already.
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Originally Posted by FenderBean
This could be done by using the same fuel valves that turbines use already.
Actually it can't. A fuel valve can and will let fuel get past it when fueling, I have seen it happen. I want something that will shut off all fuel flow to the motor upon command no matter the condition, but thanks for the suggestion.

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Old 06-28-2019, 10:00 AM
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Think I remember seeing people use servos to operate ball valves that we use for our engines. Pretty sure that is what Keith is talking about. I think it’s a requirement even in Australia but not sure.
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I think it was in the UK or somewhere in Europe that the separate remote ball valve was required. Not sure if it still is but someone will probably chime in.
There are some old posts somewhere that show how many have done it.

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Old 06-28-2019, 10:48 AM
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Some different solutions over the years

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-jets-120/4679912-cnc-festo-ball-valve-mount.html

http://www.frankturbine.com/wp-content/uploads/ft_smokerventil.jpg

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Originally Posted by LGM Graphix
Some different solutions over the years

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...lve-mount.html

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You'll have to copy and paste. I dont understand why rcu doesn't allow links...
Weird, it automatically inserts/formats/displays the links when I paste a URL. Are you on the mobile site perhaps?

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...lve-mount.html

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Originally Posted by Auburn02
Weird, it automatically inserts/formats/displays the links when I paste a URL. Are you on the mobile site perhaps?

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...lve-mount.html

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I'm on the desktop version for a mobile phone but not the mobile site . Strange. It does the same thing to me on a PC though.
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Originally Posted by LGM Graphix
Some different solutions over the years

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...lve-mount.html

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You'll have to copy and paste. I dont understand why rcu doesn't allow links...
I had found the one from frankturbine, but its got a 10-12 week lead...going to look at the one from perthrc it looks just like what I need.

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So feeling a little stupid. After looking at the example posted available at PerthRC and seeing part of it looking 3d printed. I decided to check Thingiverse and low and behold....

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2635085
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1696851
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2615298

The nice thing is I know sketchup well enough to mod it for my needs.

I will post what I come up with.

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Very cool - I've got to get me one of these printers.
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Altecare in Canada sells a setup for servo operated ball valve.

altecarerc.com I believe.

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To answer your original question - yes, I use servo operated ball valves.

A requirement for turbine operation in Australia (since no longer required) was a method of remote shutting
down of the engine independent of the ECU. This resulted in availability of all sorts of gadgets to cut the power
supply to the pump. Also required is a manual fuel shut off to the turbine - a ball valve.

A friend who got me interested in jets thought why not just put a servo on the same ball valve. The servo will drive
the valve shut in an emergency but still let it be used manually to open or close. The servo will not open the valve
again, pointless really once the engine has shut down.

Simple to make using readily available parts.



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Originally Posted by Auburn02
Very cool - I've got to get me one of these printers.
I've been playing around with the Monoprice Mini 3D Delta while I'm out here in Afghanistan.. $200 from Amazon.. It's a FANTASTIC small format machine. Print quality is amazing. Build area IS small though.. but for stuff like this it's perfect.
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Originally Posted by sirrom
Actually it can't. A fuel valve can and will let fuel get past it when fueling, I have seen it happen. I want something that will shut off all fuel flow to the motor upon command no matter the condition, but thanks for the suggestion.

Patrick
Use two in series instead of one.

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