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Old 09-08-2020, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by markusvt
Why the different fuel tank?
A couple of reasons, first I believe that the Kevlar tanks are a much safer product along with having forgiveness when it comes to pressure variations, Also when I did this build I wanted more room under the two equipment trays. The tank at the back end is flat on top for about 1/3 the length of the over all tank, with this it allowed me to get the rear tray in along with all of its wires and still have space above the tank.

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Old 09-08-2020, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jvaliensi
Hi,
Would anyone be willing to snap a photo of their flap linkage setup? I wish to see how it is done.

Thank you,
See attached for how I did mine.

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Old 09-08-2020, 11:38 AM
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Good enough for this small jet. Mine's about the same.
Old 09-08-2020, 11:50 AM
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Thanks for the photo.
Did you put the control arm assembly on after the servo was bolted in?
I loose the tiny Cir-clips so fast.
Old 09-08-2020, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jvaliensi
Thanks for the photo.
Did you put the control arm assembly on after the servo was bolted in?
I loose the tiny Cir-clips so fast.

Install the servo first then you can assemble the linkage pre installed on servo arm outside the aircraft and then slip it into the wing and push the arm on the servo no problem
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Originally Posted by jvaliensi
Thanks for the photo.
Did you put the control arm assembly on after the servo was bolted in?
I loose the tiny Cir-clips so fast.
I did mine to where I matched the servos to each other and then matched the linkage so both were the same length. I installed the servos with the arms attached and if you look close at the pictures the servos are pushed hard up against the top of the wing this allowed the servo arm to just clear the inside wing skin, i then installed the linkage as one piece, and yes getting the small clevis pin in and clip on is a task but it can be dun. To me linkage geometry from one side of the aircraft is of high importance that is why it takes time.

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Old 09-13-2020, 06:11 AM
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Almost ready,

programming the radio left to do.

weighs 14.54 with full uat and 1oz in the main tank. Balance point is center of spar. (2.4 in in front of center of mains )

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mercury srs
2x 1350 pulse lipo for rx
1x 1350 pulse lipo For brake /retracts
1x 2100 ecu pack
Old 09-13-2020, 06:13 AM
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A few build shots , final photos will be uploaded once I secure all lipos in their final spots
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I will CG it again with full fuel to see how far forward it is ready to fly. Too bad you canít center the fuel tank over the spar on this one. Hopefully it isnít too nose heavy with full fuel.

anyone else have any idea where your CG is with the uat and stock tank full ?
Old 09-13-2020, 07:48 AM
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Thats a lot of stuff! I will be curious to hear youíre ready to fly weight minus fuel
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Originally Posted by Bob_B
Thats a lot of stuff! I will be curious to hear youíre ready to fly weight minus fuel
that is my ready to fly weight minus fuel I posted.

14.54 lbs ready to fly includes full uat and 1oz in the main tank.
Old 09-13-2020, 09:36 AM
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Mine is 10.8 no fuel. The model seems to handle a good Weight range
Old 09-13-2020, 10:02 AM
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17.5 lbs ready to fly with full bvm uat and full 60 oz stock fuel tank

balances with full fuel at just under 1inch forward of the middle of the spar tube
Old 09-13-2020, 10:05 AM
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well crap itís heavy,

only thing different in mine is the mercury srs and running three 1350 lipos (2 for rx redundancy and 1 dedicated for gear, and xicoy brake controller)

and I did paint a light coat of paint in the interior and put braid on all my servo leads ,

it all adds up
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They seem to fly great if that weight Iím guessing it will just land faster than what mine does
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Originally Posted by chevronflyer
that is my ready to fly weight minus fuel I posted.

14.54 lbs ready to fly includes full uat and 1oz in the main tank.
mine is 13.25 with an 85n turbine. 14.5 is a little chunky, but hey, the T1 mini is similar in size to our rebel and is around 17.5-18lbs dry, so don't worry about it too much. I just finished my carf 2m Rebel. With an sw170b, full uat, only 22-3/4lbs! The similar size T1 comes in near or over 30lbs.

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Originally Posted by bodywerks
mine is 13.25 with an 85n turbine. 14.5 is a little chunky, but hey, the T1 mini is similar in size to our rebel and is around 17.5-18lbs dry, so don't worry about it too much. I just finished my carf 2m Rebel. With an sw170b, full uat, only 22-3/4lbs! The similar size T1 comes in near or over 30lbs.
My buddy showed up with his 2M Rebel to maiden yesterday. Sitting next to my T1, it is noticeably smaller. I fly my T-1ís fairly hard and they are rock solid. His Rebel Classic fuse is blowing apart in front of the wing and one of the flap hinges is delaminating after 4 gentle flights and greaser landings. It did fly absolutely amazing.....but is now unflyable. Iíll take the extra few pounds any day over something that falls apart after 4 easy flights!!

I have been strongly considering a Rebel Pro, but think I will give them more time in the field to see how they hold up
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Originally Posted by cbk07
My buddy showed up with his 2M Rebel to maiden yesterday. Sitting next to my T1, it is noticeably smaller. I fly my T-1ís fairly hard and they are rock solid. His Rebel Classic fuse is blowing apart in front of the wing and one of the flap hinges is delaminating after 4 gentle flights and greaser landings. It did fly absolutely amazing.....but is now unflyable. Iíll take the extra few pounds any day over something that falls apart after 4 easy flights!!

I have been strongly considering a Rebel Pro, but think I will give them more time in the field to see how they hold up

could you post some pics of that? Was it a Comp-Arf? Or was it a pirotti?
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I don't....and am not knocking CARF. I fly my Ultra Flash fast with hard pullouts and absolutely love it. And have seen the Hot flown really hard. Just think the 2M Rebel could use a little reinforcement or beefier construction. Building the lightest plane isn't always better for everyone. There is always the possibility that this plane had some hidden shipping damaging or was just a weak layup.....but if it were mine and knowing how I like to fly, I would have reinforced a few things prior to assembling. This guy is on a buddy box and the guy that flew it this weekend did so smoothly and with a lot of respect.
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Originally Posted by bodywerks
mine is 13.25 with an 85n turbine. 14.5 is a little chunky, but hey, the T1 mini is similar in size to our rebel and is around 17.5-18lbs dry, so don't worry about it too much. I just finished my carf 2m Rebel. With an sw170b, full uat, only 22-3/4lbs! The similar size T1 comes in near or over 30lbs.
thatís your ready to fly weight with fuel ? With an 85n turbine ?

I mean I know the k60 second gen is heavy but feck this jet is way heavy compared to Everyoneís
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Originally Posted by cbk07
I don't....and am not knocking CARF. I fly my Ultra Flash fast with hard pullouts and absolutely love it. And have seen the Hot flown really hard. Just think the 2M Rebel could use a little reinforcement or beefier construction. Building the lightest plane isn't always better for everyone. There is always the possibility that this plane had some hidden shipping damaging or was just a weak layup.....but if it were mine and knowing how I like to fly, I would have reinforced a few things prior to assembling. This guy is on a buddy box and the guy that flew it this weekend did so smoothly and with a lot of respect.

Craig is that you!!!
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Still wondering what everyoneís weighs Fully fueled and ready to fly though, thatís the real comparison.

Keep in mind I never weighed mine empty . I weighed it full fuel and weighed it with a full 4oz uat and 1oz in the main tank to get an accurate CG at landing. I will weigh it empty to see where I stand so I am comparing it apples for apples To everyone else, because some may have given weights based on smaller stock uat full but nothing in Main tank or ect...

Iíll post what it weighs dry
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Originally Posted by LimitDwn
The maiden is dun and a couple more. Completed yesterday at Titusville PA. The jet is amazing in the air, very locked in. Powered by Jets Munt 70 which is perfect with unlimited vertical and great overall speed it gets small fast, guide by Futaba, balanced on the back of the wing tube, gear down and no fuel. Custom fuel cell from Gary at Jet Tech, smaller OD but longer than the comp ARF tank. Power box Mercury for power management and Xicoy 13 for gear and brake control. More fun is coming.

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curious your weights dry and full fuel ready to fly since your setup is similar to mine
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So not much difference dry ,

I emptied the tank and uat and it weighs 14.2 lbs dry.

Iíll report how the maiden goes
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