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Old 09-20-2020, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Dansy
‘Weight is not the end of the world.....and yes there’s better out there, I’m not a poster boy for any factory....I pay full price on mine 😝 you keep bringing T-1 while you never ever own one.... too funny...
I owed the T-1 before I got a Rebel. I would NEVER recommend someone to get the T-1 over the Rebel, and I like T-One's scale stuff.
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Old 09-20-2020, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Desertlakesflying
I owed the T-1 before I got a Rebel. I would NEVER recommend someone to get the T-1 over the Rebel, and I like T-One's scale stuff.
‘Well that’s a difference between you and me 😂
Old 09-20-2020, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dansy
‘Well that’s a difference between you and me 😂
So what do you like better about the T1?
Old 09-20-2020, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aviti
So what do you like better about the T1?
‘I don’t remember saying I like the T-1 better, just opinion are just that opinion.....I just said there’s better options.....there’s quite a few jets in this size.....unfortunately this year no events, to go too and see many different one...

If you like what ever jet buy it....there’s no better Jets then the one you own
Old 09-20-2020, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dansy
‘Weight is not the end of the world.....and yes there’s better out there, I’m not a poster boy for any factory....I pay full price on mine 😝 you keep bringing T-1 while you never ever own one.... too funny...
LOL. A pound or two variance for a 2m jet is not a big deal, but seven+ pounds? That's a little ridiculous. I know the site says 23-24lbs but I have yet to see reports of weights that low. Weight matters when it comes to how well they slow down and how they act when they start to get too slow. That's just plain physics
BTW, I pay full price for my stuff, too. Heck, even more than full price, lol. I just happen to think CARF has more to offer for the money.
Old 09-21-2020, 01:29 PM
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Put my 160 G4 in my 2M Rebel yesterday, and flew it today. What a blast it was. The 140 G2 is plenty, but the 160 was that little bit of oooooohhhhh yeah...
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Old 09-21-2020, 03:00 PM
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The T1 looks like it has a wider cord so maybe more wing area. The T1 is built like a tank and can be flown slow or hard and fast. The Rebel is labeled a light aerobatic ship and some have warned on here to not fly it too fast. I see your over powered jet videos bodywerks but have yet to see you fly your jets fast and hard. I saw a T1 flown fast and hard with a 160 in it and I wonder if you can do the same with a Rebel. Seems to me you guys are comparing two different ships.
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Old 09-21-2020, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkF
The T1 looks like it has a wider cord so maybe more wing area. The T1 is built like a tank and can be flown slow or hard and fast. The Rebel is labeled a light aerobatic ship and some have warned on here to not fly it too fast. I see your over powered jet videos bodywerks but have yet to see you fly your jets fast and hard. I saw a T1 flown fast and hard with a 160 in it and I wonder if you can do the same with a Rebel. Seems to me you guys are comparing two different ships.
My T-1 has pulled 9 Gs but routinely pulls over 8 Gs with no signs of stress. I don't think I fly it excessively hard but not gentle with it either.
Old 09-21-2020, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by causeitflies
My T-1 has pulled 9 Gs but routinely pulls over 8 Gs with no signs of stress. I don't think I fly it excessively hard but not gentle with it either.
Dang, I had a guy tell me I was flying mine hard and we looked at the telemetry and I never pulled over 5.5 Gs. I thought I was going super easy on it. (T1 Mini)
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Desertlakesflying
Put my 160 G4 in my 2M Rebel yesterday, and flew it today. What a blast it was. The 140 G2 is plenty, but the 160 was that little bit of oooooohhhhh yeah...
mine, at 22.5lbs, with a 170, I had to listen to my timer beep on and off the whole flight - it's set to start/stop at 1/4 throttle! But imo, it's awesome! Nothing quite like accelerated vertical!
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Originally Posted by MarkF
The T1 looks like it has a wider cord so maybe more wing area. The T1 is built like a tank and can be flown slow or hard and fast. The Rebel is labeled a light aerobatic ship and some have warned on here to not fly it too fast. I see your over powered jet videos bodywerks but have yet to see you fly your jets fast and hard. I saw a T1 flown fast and hard with a 160 in it and I wonder if you can do the same with a Rebel. Seems to me you guys are comparing two different ships.
I think the only rebel video I have out is my Pro, which is hardly overpowered - barely 1:1 at take off. And the video was a maiden flight. There only Rebel I've had long enough to fly hard is my HOT, and anyone that's seen me flying it in person can attest, I push it hard.
I'm not discounting your statement. But a Rebel with a 160 weighs less at take off weight than a T1 does dry, so it stands to reason that a sport jet at 28lbs take off weight with a 36lb thrust turbine requires throttle management.
Old 09-22-2020, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bodywerks
I think the only rebel video I have out is my Pro, which is hardly overpowered - barely 1:1 at take off. And the video was a maiden flight. The only Rebel I've had long enough to fly hard is my HOT, and anyone that's seen me flying it in person can attest, I push it hard.
I'm not discounting your statement. But a Rebel with a 160 weighs less at take off weight than a T1 does dry, so it stands to reason that a sport jet at 28lbs take off weight with a 36lb thrust turbine requires throttle management.
The 160 G4 is nearly the same size and weight of the 140 G2. 1oz difference which makes my CG right on the back of the spar instead of the middle, which I am actually liking more So it is close to the same weight at take off. No I'm not using all the throttle, except until the wheels leave the ground, since this is only a temporary fix until I get my 140 back from the shop for service. 1/4 throttle most of the flight for normal flying hardly ever make it to 3/4, and still the same fuel use as the 140. But it is nice to run the 160 for a time to get used to how it spools before I put it in my BVM F-18 which won't see nearly the air time this Rebel sees.

And yes you fly that Hot extremely hard. Like Havoc hard...
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:02 PM
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So is the Rebel Hot to small for a first turbine? Gets small too fast? Lands too fast? I did price one out and it’s not a huge savings over the 2M Rebel.
Old 09-22-2020, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by aviti
So is the Rebel Hot to small for a first turbine? Gets small too fast? Lands too fast? I did price one out and it’s not a huge savings over the 2M Rebel.
only gets small fast if you fly it fast. A buddy of mine transitioned to the HOT from an hsd viper. No regrets. Heck, other than being more expensive than the viper, it's actually a better first jet. You can't go wrong with either there HOT or 2m, IMO.
Old 10-21-2020, 05:33 AM
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First Cayman Rebel for my customer who started the whole Cayman scheme thing way back. Orange Cayman. With have a P-130Rx JetCat like the others around here. PB Core





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Old 10-21-2020, 06:06 AM
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Brilliant scheme!
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Gorgeous!! Is the bottom all grey?
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That looks really nice!!
Old 10-21-2020, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by aviti
So is the Rebel Hot to small for a first turbine? Gets small too fast? Lands too fast? I did price one out and it’s not a huge savings over the 2M Rebel.
I would just stick to the recommended turbine range/size and you should be fine.
Old 10-21-2020, 07:05 AM
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Bottom is mainly orange with the Rebel word in vinyl.
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by aviti
So is the Rebel Hot to small for a first turbine? Gets small too fast? Lands too fast? I did price one out and it’s not a huge savings over the 2M Rebel.
It is a great flying jet, especially if you keep it light! Mine lands very slow.
Old 11-13-2020, 01:53 PM
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Have a new color swap coming!! I needed a Xmas present.
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Old 11-13-2020, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Wilshere
First Cayman Rebel for my customer who started the whole Cayman scheme thing way back. Orange Cayman. With have a P-130Rx JetCat like the others around here. PB Core



Do you think the will make that a stock scheme? Let's see some more pics with the Core install too! Thanks!
Old 11-13-2020, 03:19 PM
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Yes, it’s available to order. I have a second one coming with a yellow base.

The guy is building it now

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Calling this one done. Successful turbine and taxi trials concluded this weekend. Maiden scheduled for Thursday.






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