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Old 01-10-2020, 10:19 AM
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Default Fast sport jet for 60lbs thrust?

I am looking for something sexy and fast. I do like the Top RC Voyager looks wise, but I've watched video's and it really doesn't look like it's a very fast jet. I really like the Passion Aero Trinity as well, but have been told a 60lb thrust turbine may be too much for it.

I'll be honest, I don't like the looks of the Rogue or the Shockwave, the upcoming Comp ARF Bolt looks ok but still not entirely doing it for me, I was never a fan of the weird nose of the Lightning either.

I have a Firebird, I have a CAI Raptor, I do really like the Jacknife but it's out of my budget. I like the Extreme ARF Vixen but can't tell if that company is even viable anymore or if the Vixen exists anymore. If I could find a CAI Predator I'd be thrilled but I think there was maybe only 3 ever produced anyway.

Am I missing some or is it really that the only jets being designed today are big floaty looking things?

If I could find the right price on a Jacknife or Vixen I'd probably be looking at those although I'm not sure how fast the Vixen is either. I'm not restricted by 200mph rules here and Jets as big as the Voyager would have to be doing at least 250 to feel fast at that size I think, I don't know if that airframe is capable of speeds like that and the couple people I've talked to that have flown them haven't pushed them speed wise and aren't sure what the top speed would be.
The style of flying sure has changed, I guess I am one of the few that still prefers a really slippery, heavier speed demon.
Old 01-10-2020, 10:59 AM
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For the price I will go with the voyager.



Old 01-10-2020, 11:29 AM
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Ultra Bandit? Not sure if the EVOs are built to stand up to the speed you're looking for but the originals sure are.
Old 01-10-2020, 11:54 AM
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Maybe diamond? I have one and its fast
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I like the Voyager but as I say, watching videos it just does not look like it's designed to go fast.
the ultra bandit is all fine and good but way beyond any budget I have.
I'm leaning towards the Voyager but I just don't want to be disappointed. It's also massive. Very difficult to move around with just one person at that size.
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The videos with voyager are with k-210 so this is not even 50 lbs off thrust
Old 01-10-2020, 05:03 PM
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How fast do you want to go? If you said you already have a firebird, there's not much faster than that, especially with 60lbs of thrust. The next ones on the list would be the Ultra Bandit and the CARF Lightning. Both of those will do high 200s as I've learned from experience.
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If I didn't already have a Vixen I would be tempted to buy the Voyager even though it is larger than my self imposed model size. Even the Vixen is a challenge for one person to handle and my later purchases have gone the other way to smaller models. The Vixen is supposed to take up to a 300 size turbine but I haven't seen any flying with that size.The pipe is huge. Too bad they are hard to come by now.
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Originally Posted by FlyJ View Post
How fast do you want to go? If you said you already have a firebird, there's not much faster than that, especially with 60lbs of thrust. The next ones on the list would be the Ultra Bandit and the CARF Lightning. Both of those will do high 200s as I've learned from experience.
I don't need to go as fast as my firebird, I just don't want something that feels like it's crawling. A lot of these huge jets seem to top out under 200mph and with the size that seems really slow.
Old 01-10-2020, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by causeitflies View Post
If I didn't already have a Vixen I would be tempted to buy the Voyager even though it is larger than my self imposed model size. Even the Vixen is a challenge for one person to handle and my later purchases have gone the other way to smaller models. The Vixen is supposed to take up to a 300 size turbine but I haven't seen any flying with that size.The pipe is huge. Too bad they are hard to come by now.
Wanna sell your vixen hahaha
Old 01-10-2020, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LGM Graphix View Post
Wanna sell your vixen hahaha
hahaha NO! LOL
I hadn't flown it in a couple years and started flying it again in the fall. Now it's the only plane I haven't put in winter storage hoping a nice day will come along to fly it again. I love the way it flies. It will slow down but is definitely not a "floaty" jet.

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Old 01-10-2020, 06:52 PM
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CARF BOLT, it's new and to be released soon, more info is coming. fully bypass so they say and turbines from 220 and up. There is a thread someplace here.

Robert
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I wish I still had my Vixen!
https://www.xtremearf.com/index.php/...ixen-sport-jet


Marc in the UK had his up for sale, not sure if he sold it...
I had telemetry in mine and it topped out at 199.99 MPH with a Rhino in it...

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Old 01-11-2020, 05:39 PM
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Feibao Swordfish or Paritech Natrix.
I have 2 swordfish's and fly them with a K260 in India and a K210 in USA. Built strong and pulled 252mph on my yellow one with the K260 in India. I know another guy who fly it with the Atom 270 in Germany.

The Natrix is another option - Never owned it so can't comment on it's strength.
Old 01-12-2020, 07:36 AM
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Jim Hiller's Vixen on a slow fly by this past September at the United States Air Force Museum...


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Originally Posted by RCISFUN View Post
Jim Hiller's Vixen on a slow fly by this past September at the United States Air Force Museum...

That's a really good looking airplane. I just can't figure out if extreme arf even actually existed anymore?
Old 01-12-2020, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GULDUKAT View Post
Feibao Swordfish or Paritech Natrix.
I have 2 swordfish's and fly them with a K260 in India and a K210 in USA. Built strong and pulled 252mph on my yellow one with the K260 in India. I know another guy who fly it with the Atom 270 in Germany.

The Natrix is another option - Never owned it so can't comment on it's strength.
Hi, Where in India do you fly?
Old 01-12-2020, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LGM Graphix View Post
That's a really good looking airplane. I just can't figure out if extreme arf even actually existed anymore?
Yes they are in business, Marvin Alvarez is a dealer in Miami Fl.
You can find him on FB or PM me and I will give you his phone number if you are interested in a new Vixen.
Old 01-12-2020, 09:22 PM
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That voyager is awful close looking to an ultra bandit. Looks good!
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Originally Posted by Ragz View Post
Hi, Where in India do you fly?
Calcutta and Guwahati. We have a steel business and a bumpy strip behind the factory for this hobby.
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Originally Posted by ravill View Post
That voyager is awful close looking to an ultra bandit. Looks good!
Just 2 things I cannot get over: the look and shape of the canopy and the funky light in front of the front landing gear.

If they made a 3M Odyssey - I'd get it immediately.
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Fly Eagle Jet Liberty!!
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Originally Posted by FalconWings View Post
Fly Eagle Jet Liberty!!
Lol I tried that once.
Old 01-13-2020, 08:55 PM
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I've never seen such big models alive. Hopefully you'll find what you're looking for and be fast enough.
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My first attempt at purchasing the Voyager didn't work out too well, but the folks at Gator RC were great to work with. But anyway, I am curious to know if there is any video of the Voyager being pushed to its speed limits. Not that I am a speed freak, but would like to know the plane is capable of handling 199. 9 mph.

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