Freewing Mig 29 EDF to Turbine Conversion
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I'm at a jet meet this weekend. Let me see if I can get an answer. I don't remember how I first got the apps to appear. Let me check with Dave and see if there is some kind of link needed.
Gary
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Mig-29 #2 successful maiden flight today. Flew about 7 min on timer using the new XIcoy telemetry for turbine info. I still did not use any header tank fuel. Now going to calibrate the pump factor to get accurate fuel remaining calculations.
Flight was uneventful and flew much like #1. Cortex gyro dampened out some minor movements in roll and made the jet more stable when turned on. Flight mode trim used to trim the jet at each flap setting and it flies well hands off when clean, half flap, and full flap. A 45 degree pitch upline and half roll CG check indicated slightly nose heavy but I will keep it there for a few flights and check how it lands. I got a slight balloon on flare and a little drop in but no damage. Need some more practice!
Flight was uneventful and flew much like #1. Cortex gyro dampened out some minor movements in roll and made the jet more stable when turned on. Flight mode trim used to trim the jet at each flap setting and it flies well hands off when clean, half flap, and full flap. A 45 degree pitch upline and half roll CG check indicated slightly nose heavy but I will keep it there for a few flights and check how it lands. I got a slight balloon on flare and a little drop in but no damage. Need some more practice!
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[QUOTE=drfred58809;12698485]Have you, by any chance added another route/link for app files in your Jeti Studio?[/QUOTE
Hi Markus,
I got a reply from Dave last night. He says you have add a link to the configuration in Jeti Studio for his apps. I remember him telling me to do that now.
Go to Jeti Studio/File/Configuration/App Sources and paste in this link: http://www.jetimodel.nl/DFM/Apps.json
Then you should see the DFM apps in the Lua app manager of the Transmitter WIzard.
Hope this helps.
Gary



Hi Markus,
I got a reply from Dave last night. He says you have add a link to the configuration in Jeti Studio for his apps. I remember him telling me to do that now.
Go to Jeti Studio/File/Configuration/App Sources and paste in this link: http://www.jetimodel.nl/DFM/Apps.json
Then you should see the DFM apps in the Lua app manager of the Transmitter WIzard.
Hope this helps.
Gary



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Hi Gary,
thank you so much for your help & support ! FInally found it and installing ;-)
I sent my X 45 + telemetry adaptor to Gaspar for an update not too long ago....lets see if that already supports the APP !
Enjoy your flying weekend (over here in Germany it's already quite cold)!!
BR
Markus
thank you so much for your help & support ! FInally found it and installing ;-)
I sent my X 45 + telemetry adaptor to Gaspar for an update not too long ago....lets see if that already supports the APP !
Enjoy your flying weekend (over here in Germany it's already quite cold)!!
BR
Markus
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#2 flies great!

Getting 8-10 min flights. No complaints. Really a great flying airplane.
Markus,
Your welcome. Glad it's working. We had great flying all day. I got 6 flights on the F-16XL and 3 flights on the Mig-29. We set heat record here today at 87F/30C. Sunny and light winds all day. Same forcast tomorrow but expecting 42F/5C on Sunday.

Getting 8-10 min flights. No complaints. Really a great flying airplane.
Markus,
Your welcome. Glad it's working. We had great flying all day. I got 6 flights on the F-16XL and 3 flights on the Mig-29. We set heat record here today at 87F/30C. Sunny and light winds all day. Same forcast tomorrow but expecting 42F/5C on Sunday.
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No, I use straight West Systems 105 / 206. Any laminating epoxy will work. It is probably is not really required but is just a precaution against any pinholes that may be in the 3D printing. I may try leak checking one in the future before applying the epoxy and see.
Gary
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Dave, you could I use it straight. Pour enough in tank to roll it around and coat everything. The dump it out and coat the outside with a brush. Set up the tank so the epoxy can continue to drain. Will take a few hours for it to drain completely and 24 hours to set up. Hope that helps.
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I gave it a try with BSI 30 min and it was pretty thick. It did not run very much, so I tried spreading it around with a brush. It, works, but is pretty thick (and heavy) in spots, hence the question.
Is laminating epoxy much thinner?
I am printing a second tank to try and make one a bit lighter.
-Dave
Is laminating epoxy much thinner?
I am printing a second tank to try and make one a bit lighter.
-Dave
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Yes laminating epoxy is thinner. There are several brands available but it is used to wet out glass and CF in molding process. BSI is more of an adhesive type and thicker.
West Systems is usually easy to get but you have to mix it 1 to 5. I use a small scale.
West Systems is usually easy to get but you have to mix it 1 to 5. I use a small scale.
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#2 flies great!

Getting 8-10 min flights. No complaints. Really a great flying airplane.
Markus,
Your welcome. Glad it's working. We had great flying all day. I got 6 flights on the F-16XL and 3 flights on the Mig-29. We set heat record here today at 87F/30C. Sunny and light winds all day. Same forcast tomorrow but expecting 42F/5C on Sunday.

Getting 8-10 min flights. No complaints. Really a great flying airplane.
Markus,
Your welcome. Glad it's working. We had great flying all day. I got 6 flights on the F-16XL and 3 flights on the Mig-29. We set heat record here today at 87F/30C. Sunny and light winds all day. Same forcast tomorrow but expecting 42F/5C on Sunday.
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Viper, fantastic conversion!! I'm just wondering if you did the wing tip mods as per this video? Seems pretty easy to do, and apparently makes it fly real nice! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mxqq86i6cU
Thanks for the complement. Yes I did the wing tip washout but I did it a little different. See post # 139. The effect is the same and allows the stabs to be trimmed with much less trailing edge up and less servo load as stated in the video. I've seen that video several times and really like his conversion. Is that you?
Thanks,
Gary
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I'm also keen to learn how you mounted the smoke tank and main tank for your jet.
I'm planning on installing a K45G1 in mine, so it's the same can size as your K55 if i'm not wrong. would be really helpful if you have some photos to share.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi Aussie,
Thanks for the complement. Yes I did the wing tip washout but I did it a little different. See post # 139. The effect is the same and allows the stabs to be trimmed with much less trailing edge up and less servo load as stated in the video. I've seen that video several times and really like his conversion. Is that you?
Thanks,
Gary
Thanks for the complement. Yes I did the wing tip washout but I did it a little different. See post # 139. The effect is the same and allows the stabs to be trimmed with much less trailing edge up and less servo load as stated in the video. I've seen that video several times and really like his conversion. Is that you?
Thanks,
Gary
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do you have succes with walbro felt clunks?
they are really short and seems to me they cause cavitation, tested on 45 and 80N engine but UAT kept filling with air,
asking because I see them reccommended all around on youtube, but I keep getting bad results with them,
but like the wing idea a lot, to catch more fuel during rolling/inverted for sure
they are really short and seems to me they cause cavitation, tested on 45 and 80N engine but UAT kept filling with air,
asking because I see them reccommended all around on youtube, but I keep getting bad results with them,
but like the wing idea a lot, to catch more fuel during rolling/inverted for sure
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dr.tom,
Yes I have success with them. I have used the winged felt clunks in all of my 45N setups, both KT nad Xicoy and have never had an issue. They really suck the tank dry. I eliminated the air trap tank on my first Mig-29 when it sprung a leak because I over pressurized it when filling. I just used the header tank with the winged felt clunk and it worked perfectly.
Gary
Yes I have success with them. I have used the winged felt clunks in all of my 45N setups, both KT nad Xicoy and have never had an issue. They really suck the tank dry. I eliminated the air trap tank on my first Mig-29 when it sprung a leak because I over pressurized it when filling. I just used the header tank with the winged felt clunk and it worked perfectly.
Gary
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I love Buck's work, work, work, livin' the dream. My MiG.29 remains on the workbench. Sigh.
Speaking of work, anybody interested in a tiny version of our DS1155? Eyeball this new submicro we just finished assembling. DS125CLHV
Been busting our hind end on these. Still work to do on the product listing itself, but QC cleared them for inventory couple days ago. No, not for everybody.
Speaking of work, anybody interested in a tiny version of our DS1155? Eyeball this new submicro we just finished assembling. DS125CLHV
Been busting our hind end on these. Still work to do on the product listing itself, but QC cleared them for inventory couple days ago. No, not for everybody.
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Gary,
When you flew with K45...
Did you separate red wire from thr cable (RX<->ECU)
So you could run FW model at 5.5V BEC and ECU at 6-8V(2S rx LiPo)?
Because thats what manual says is max for fw(5.5V) but k45 does not work under 5.7, (prefers6-8V)


Thanks
When you flew with K45...
Did you separate red wire from thr cable (RX<->ECU)
So you could run FW model at 5.5V BEC and ECU at 6-8V(2S rx LiPo)?
Because thats what manual says is max for fw(5.5V) but k45 does not work under 5.7, (prefers6-8V)


Thanks
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