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Old 07-03-2021, 04:38 PM
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Default Jets Over Kentucky 2021 FAA Mandate

JOK Pilots,

New FAA Mandate:

Jets Over Kentucky 2021 will be affected by the new mandate. "Model activity can proceed only by closure of the airport." Memphis FAA handed down this decision last week. However, Atlanta upon receiving this new request stated they would never approve of airport closure for 10 days.

This put us in a very precarious situation, and produced tremendous stress on me, and the airport! We produced a solution by which the FAA might accept. This solution gives us 8 hours of UNINTERRUPTED flight time each day.

The next item was to produce times for the airport to be open. We decided that the airport would open until 10:00am, and from 3:00pm-5:30pm. That gives us 10:00 to 3:00pm, and 5:30pm until 8:30 for 10 days to fly UNINTERRUPTED.

That's the best we could get, and we're coping with a mandate that all events will now have to deal with. We understand if some might not attend, but this is a consequence BEYOND OUR CONTROL. We anticipate this to still be our best Jets Over Kentucky to date, and hope you understand our current situation.

Respectfully,
Lewis Patton


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Toys over public transportation? Really?
Old 07-04-2021, 06:32 AM
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(We produced a solution by which the FAA might accept.)

So I take it that the event could be canceled if the FAA does not accept this? Let us know as soon as possible so we can cancel our rooms early enough to get a refund.
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Originally Posted by Maddmaxx1 View Post
(We produced a solution by which the FAA might accept.)

So I take it that the event could be canceled if the FAA does not accept this? Let us know as soon as possible so we can cancel our rooms early enough to get a refund.
Good question. It's a bit misleading if it was accepted or we're still waiting on approval.
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Old 07-04-2021, 07:04 PM
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Lewis told me the show is 100% on track.
The following is from his Face Book post
"FAA approval of JOK is 100% assured; just a formality now. Should get our paperwork Tuesday. "

Old 07-04-2021, 07:45 PM
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Thanks Rich. See you there.
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Fantastic! I can’t wait….
Thanks for the info.
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Gonna be a traffic JAM at the flight line.
Old 07-06-2021, 03:55 PM
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So did they get FAA approval?
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This was on Jets over Kentucky website.

FAA approval of JOK is 100% assured; just a formality now. Should get our paperwork Tuesday.
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Originally Posted by Maddmaxx1 View Post
This was on Jets over Kentucky website.

FAA approval of JOK is 100% assured; just a formality now. Should get our paperwork Tuesday.
great thanks been traveling regularly recently didn’t look there and was hoping something would be posted.
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FAA regional director is composing our “Conditional approval letter” for Jets Over Kentucky at this time. This process takes 60 days, and we’re getting it done in two weeks. Stop…listening to vicious rumors, and follow facts. Our letter could arrive at any time.



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Great to hear amigo, as you can imagine many of us planned our work schedule/vacation months ago around the expected days of the event , so it becomes less and less palatable to pack up the clampetts wagon and make a trek that “may or may not “ happen during the days we planned off.

vicious rumors are easily squashed with constant communication, so thanks for engaging at every opportunity you have.

i, along with many others, appreciate your effort in organizing the event.

Please keep us cricket phone using, non Facebook Neanderthals updated as soon as you hear something more definitive.
Old 07-06-2021, 09:22 PM
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This response from the FAA Regional Director was sent to our airport manager this morning. I will not reveal his name for obvious reasons.

Good Morning,

I am in the process of drafting the conditional approval letter.

Thanks,

——————————Regional Airport Compliance Specialist
FAA Office of Airports, Southern Region
Safety and Standards Branch

Again, we have met all requirements, and approval is forthcoming. Thanks for your patience as we await this response to our proposal.
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What are the tent/obstacle setback requirements? I can't imagine the FAA will allow tents, vehicles, etc. on the airport anywhere close to a single runway that's active some parts of the day and can be used in declared emergency at any time. Not sure if this is an oversight, but I checked NOTAMS for Taylorsville (AAS) this morning, and there's no mention of the upcoming limited hours.
Old 07-07-2021, 05:37 AM
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Buck, Cricket? you upgraded from jitterbug?

Franklin, from past experience, AMA recommendations for setting up flight lines typically are stringent enough from a safety perspective. I figure the FAA would let the locals sort that out. (big assumption these days)
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Franklin stay out of this. You have no vested interest in the event. Do not poison this thread like you do so many others
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Oh gosh the end is near, back to rubber band paper models.
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Originally Posted by franklin_m View Post
What are the tent/obstacle setback requirements? I can't imagine the FAA will allow tents, vehicles, etc. on the airport anywhere close to a single runway that's active some parts of the day and can be used in declared emergency at any time. Not sure if this is an oversight, but I checked NOTAMS for Taylorsville (AAS) this morning, and there's no mention of the upcoming limited hours.
Well you'd be wrong, and Notams are posted all the time. This one may just not be posted yet since they are just now drafting the approval letter
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Buck, Cricket? you upgraded from jitterbug?
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Originally Posted by paulsf86 View Post
Franklin stay out of this. You have no vested interest in the event. Do not poison this thread like you do so many others
Franky will do his utmost to cause harm to anything AMA. No interest in this post here so he starts his own FAA says 400 class G is NOT waiverable

Someone is suffering from poison dwarf syndrome.
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IMO, give this guy an award or special recognition like Mr Top Gun, and let him win one of the raffles too. He wants attention and can sure stir the ***** pot...
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Originally Posted by Propworn View Post
Franky will do his utmost to cause harm to anything AMA. No interest in this post here so he starts his own FAA says 400 class G is NOT waiverable

Someone is suffering from poison dwarf syndrome.
He’s another aviation expert, that knows just enough to seem smart, to those who dont know.

its possible to get waivers to break certain FAA regs, its just not common or easy.
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Does anyone know if you need to have an FAA number to fly at this event? How about this new TRUST test the FAA is pushing?
Just asking, and hoping not.

Scott
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Originally Posted by rusty55125 View Post
Does anyone know if you need to have an FAA number to fly at this event? How about this new TRUST test the FAA is pushing?
Just asking, and hoping not.

Scott
The number has been a requirement for a while, the test is so new im sure there are plenty that dont even know about it yet.

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