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Old 10-31-2006, 08:42 AM
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Hi Dick,

I am sure they wil find a H&S reason why we can't do it.

Geoff.

P.S. Its hot and sunny!
Old 10-31-2006, 09:59 AM
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I've started saving my pocket money already for one of these, back in the 70's did a flight test in a TMk5 courtesy of a fellow ex-apprentice who had gone on to flying training...................................b.....d !


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Old 10-31-2006, 10:13 AM
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ORIGINAL: IB

...back in the 70's did a flight test in a TMk5....

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Ian, did I ever tell you I HATE you?!!!!

Cheers,

Dick...not at all jealous...much!

Old 10-31-2006, 10:14 AM
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What kind of engines the real Lightning had ? Were they RR Avon like the Hunter but with reheats/afterburner ? I would have loved to see this fighter fly for real, just as I imagine it would be so NOISY !!! I don't recall the name of this British TV magazine whose animator bought a Lighning to put in front of his home entrance, was kind of fun too.

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Old 10-31-2006, 10:20 AM
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ORIGINAL: baron-noir

What kind of engines the real Lightning had ? Were they RR Avon like the Hunter but with reheats/afterburner ? I would have loved to see this fighter fly for real, just as I imagine it would be so NOISY !!! I don't recall the name of this British TV magazine whose animator bought a Lighning to put in front of his home entrance, was kind of fun too.

Sk

Yes, RR Avons (200 series, I think). Jeremy Clarkson, non-pc presenter of Top Gear (Brit TV Motor mag) has one in his front garden...as you do!

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Old 10-31-2006, 10:34 AM
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Thanks Dick. The Hunter was not exactely a rocket plane so I was a bit astonished to learn that the Lighning and it's stunning climb rates perfs had the same engines... but it had two of them and probably the reheat changed a lot of the equation.

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Old 10-31-2006, 11:05 AM
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Interesting article & info re. the lightning versus the F15.

http://www.lightning.org.uk/archive/0307.php

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Old 10-31-2006, 01:20 PM
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We had some fun flying at Bruntingthorpe last year, this Frightning triggered all the car alarms with only one burner lit !! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY1pktowXgE

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Old 10-31-2006, 01:45 PM
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ORIGINAL: baron-noir

Thanks Dick. The Hunter was not exactely a rocket plane so I was a bit astonished to learn that the Lighning and it's stunning climb rates perfs had the same engines... but it had two of them and probably the reheat changed a lot of the equation.

Cheers
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This Hunter does well against an M3 !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fh-I9WZBuA

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Flew them in the '60s. From a copy of the Lightning 3,5 and 6 Aircrew Manual: 2* Avon 302, 12600lb static thrust at sea level and 16300 lb with max reheat - weight with no fuel Mk3 27000lb, and Mk6 28000lb. The Mk2/2A had earlier engines, and these had slightly less power - haven't got the actual figures to hand.
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Nice...flying these things is the sport of kings !!

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Old 10-31-2006, 06:57 PM
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The F2a had Avon 211R's, which produced 11,250 lbs dry and 14,430lbs in burner.
The F2a supposedly was the best performing Lightning because:
The engine and intake ducting were optimized for peak efficiency, could carry 3100 lbs more fuel than the earlier models and was still about 500 lbs lighter the F6. Also, it retained the guns that were eliminated on later models.
BRG,
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:04 PM
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Hi all,

Anybody know when the Airworld EE Lightning might be available? (Need to start sorting the 2nd mortgage!)

Cheers,

Dick
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Old 02-22-2007, 11:56 PM
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I have heard March, but not which year !

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Old 02-23-2007, 02:36 AM
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Guys

The first kit will be shown at the German Sinsheim show in mid March...2007!
The only possible delay is the undercarriage parts as these need casting in normal AW style.
I'm looking forward to my kit in the not too distant future.

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Old 03-18-2007, 07:24 PM
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Super photos Dick. The plane looks as tightly packed as the real one. A pity that AW painted the model at Sinsheim black where it should have been “ninety-blue”.

I have a question about how the turbine Lightnings fly. I’ve heard that the MR one dutch-rolls in flight. My small EDF one does that too from time to time. I’m currently drawing up plans for a 120mm EDF version, and naturally don’t want the thing to dutch-roll at all.

So … is it likely that the dutch-rolling could be cured, or at least minimised by using a rate gyro? I’ve ordered one to experiment with, and will use it on rudder to begin with. The rudder on my model is very powerful despite its small size, and the plane will perform an almost axial roll on rudder only – I could fly the thing on just a bang-bang Conquest escapement (remember those?).

The foregoing begs the question that if dutch-rolling is a trait of the existing Lightning models, will the AW version need gyros to prevent it happening? I wonder if there was any mention of gyros in the blurb sheets at Sinsheim?

Sorry for invading your turbine forum with an EDF-based question guys, but as I have the only electric Lightning in the world, there’s no-one else to ask and I know that there’ll be good experience-based advice to be found here.

Gordon
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Just found this thread.... Very happy to be its current owner, I look forward to flying her some more these upcoming seasons.


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Old 05-30-2022, 01:09 AM
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Congrats on the acquisition, great scheme and pictures. There are a couple flying in the UK.




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