JETCENTRAL OR JET CAT
08-18-2007, 07:13 PM
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ORIGINAL: Thud_Driver
My engine hours and total flights as of 12/31/06 are on JetCat's web site under News.
Currently:
P-70 #2060 = 161h 51m, 1047 flts
P-70 #2055 = 120h 27m, 804 flts
P-80 #1153 = 151h 51m (RIP, crash), 1000 flts exactly.
Titan #670 = 7h 49m, 51 flts, + whatever the previous owner(s) did.
Rick
My engine hours and total flights as of 12/31/06 are on JetCat's web site under News.
Currently:
P-70 #2060 = 161h 51m, 1047 flts
P-70 #2055 = 120h 27m, 804 flts
P-80 #1153 = 151h 51m (RIP, crash), 1000 flts exactly.
Titan #670 = 7h 49m, 51 flts, + whatever the previous owner(s) did.
Rick
I win......
My Jetcat P-120 is very old.....It had blue can...
Ehab owned for years and sell it to me. I use that to fly are my early production plane and still had it today. It just like the energy rabbit. It kept going and going and going.....You know what I mean.
I believe the serial #528....
08-18-2007, 07:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: Woketman
Are there a lot more Jetcats out there?
Are there a lot more Jetcats out there?
But the malfuntion I see more on the less percent brand....
Why I only sell Jetcat...
The answer have been giving...
08-18-2007, 08:00 PM
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Afterburner and Strawboss -
I have read thru this thread 3 times now and something concerns me greatly about your posts. Both you guys claim to be Jet Cat Reps., and as such I would expect you to conduct yourselves in a curteous and businesslike manner in these threads. After all, you do represent Jet Cat (don't you). But it appears that you feel it's not enough just to promote YOUR product . . . you must publicly attempt to degrade others and their products with stories, rumors and sarcasm. I personally deplore such tactics, and would have serious second thoughts about purchasing a product from a company that would allow its reps to use them. As a matter of fact, I don't think my next engine will be a Jet Cat!!!
Almost everyone else on this thread has kept their posts on a positive note including
Tam who has simply told how good his engines have been. After all, that's all the guy who made the original post wanted to know in the first place.
Why do these threads always have to turn into mudslinging sessions???
I have read thru this thread 3 times now and something concerns me greatly about your posts. Both you guys claim to be Jet Cat Reps., and as such I would expect you to conduct yourselves in a curteous and businesslike manner in these threads. After all, you do represent Jet Cat (don't you). But it appears that you feel it's not enough just to promote YOUR product . . . you must publicly attempt to degrade others and their products with stories, rumors and sarcasm. I personally deplore such tactics, and would have serious second thoughts about purchasing a product from a company that would allow its reps to use them. As a matter of fact, I don't think my next engine will be a Jet Cat!!!
Almost everyone else on this thread has kept their posts on a positive note including
Tam who has simply told how good his engines have been. After all, that's all the guy who made the original post wanted to know in the first place.
Why do these threads always have to turn into mudslinging sessions???
08-18-2007, 08:16 PM
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RE: JETCENTRAL OR JET CAT
ORIGINAL: frothingslosh
If Jet Cat engines never have any problems, why are there 10 times the number of posts on the Jet Cat Support Thread that there are on the Artes Support Thread????????????
I have one of each so don't think I'm really biased here. Just asking for opinions.
If Jet Cat engines never have any problems, why are there 10 times the number of posts on the Jet Cat Support Thread that there are on the Artes Support Thread????????????
I have one of each so don't think I'm really biased here. Just asking for opinions.
because I would bet there are 10-20 times more jetcats out there than Artes motors.
08-18-2007, 08:23 PM
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ORIGINAL: frothingslosh
Afterburner and Strawboss -
I have read thru this thread 3 times now and something concerns me greatly about your posts. Both you guys claim to be Jet Cat Reps., and as such I would expect you to conduct yourselves in a curteous and businesslike manner in these threads. After all, you do represent Jet Cat (don't you). But it appears that you feel it's not enough just to promote YOUR product . . . you must publicly attempt to degrade others and their products with stories, rumors and sarcasm. I personally deplore such tactics, and would have serious second thoughts about purchasing a product from a company that would allow its reps to use them. As a matter of fact, I don't think my next engine will be a Jet Cat!!!
Almost everyone else on this thread has kept their posts on a positive note including
Tam who has simply told how good his engines have been. After all, that's all the guy who made the original post wanted to know in the first place.
Why do these threads always have to turn into mudslinging sessions???
Afterburner and Strawboss -
I have read thru this thread 3 times now and something concerns me greatly about your posts. Both you guys claim to be Jet Cat Reps., and as such I would expect you to conduct yourselves in a curteous and businesslike manner in these threads. After all, you do represent Jet Cat (don't you). But it appears that you feel it's not enough just to promote YOUR product . . . you must publicly attempt to degrade others and their products with stories, rumors and sarcasm. I personally deplore such tactics, and would have serious second thoughts about purchasing a product from a company that would allow its reps to use them. As a matter of fact, I don't think my next engine will be a Jet Cat!!!
Almost everyone else on this thread has kept their posts on a positive note including
Tam who has simply told how good his engines have been. After all, that's all the guy who made the original post wanted to know in the first place.
Why do these threads always have to turn into mudslinging sessions???
What have I said wrong????
Nothing I believe. If I have offended anybody I apologize..
DF
08-18-2007, 08:31 PM
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Does anyone know who actually is providing the warranty on the Artes engines? Jet Central or Artes? I am just curious...Gary
Does anyone know who actually is providing the warranty on the Artes engines? Jet Central or Artes? I am just curious...Gary
08-18-2007, 08:45 PM
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RE: JETCENTRAL OR JET CAT
ORIGINAL: Shok
because I would bet there are 10-20 times more jetcats out there than Artes motors.
ORIGINAL: frothingslosh
If Jet Cat engines never have any problems, why are there 10 times the number of posts on the Jet Cat Support Thread that there are on the Artes Support Thread????????????
I have one of each so don't think I'm really biased here. Just asking for opinions.
If Jet Cat engines never have any problems, why are there 10 times the number of posts on the Jet Cat Support Thread that there are on the Artes Support Thread????????????
I have one of each so don't think I'm really biased here. Just asking for opinions.
because I would bet there are 10-20 times more jetcats out there than Artes motors.
I won't argue that point, but wouldn't you say that would make the problem rate somewhere close to the same percentage??
24 pages of problems on the Jet Cat Support forum tells me that they are a long ways from being problem free!!
08-18-2007, 08:59 PM
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SinCity writes>>I never said you didn't have to pay for your engines. You shouldn't assume something is about you when it isn't. I was referring to sponsored pilots who don't have to pay for their engines. I'm not aware of any reason you would be sponsored. <<
Perhaps you should go to a few jet meets and watch Doug fly and you will have an epiphany, or watch any of the videos from CA jets, BITW etc. Doug goes to about every event that he can and all he does is FLY THE PAINT off of his fleet. I dare say that no one gets in the number of flights (with the exception of big Rick) at a gathering Doug does. Doug puts on a show, the pilots like it, the spectators like it and , most importantly, Doug likes it. That is why he needs a reliable engine (that and the fact that he hates to tinker) . He has offers from Comp ARF, TamJets and others but the only one he ever accepted was JetCat. Maybe we fly too much-perhaps the southern Calif guys should take a November break. Scotty R
Perhaps you should go to a few jet meets and watch Doug fly and you will have an epiphany, or watch any of the videos from CA jets, BITW etc. Doug goes to about every event that he can and all he does is FLY THE PAINT off of his fleet. I dare say that no one gets in the number of flights (with the exception of big Rick) at a gathering Doug does. Doug puts on a show, the pilots like it, the spectators like it and , most importantly, Doug likes it. That is why he needs a reliable engine (that and the fact that he hates to tinker) . He has offers from Comp ARF, TamJets and others but the only one he ever accepted was JetCat. Maybe we fly too much-perhaps the southern Calif guys should take a November break. Scotty R
08-18-2007, 10:32 PM
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I have owned 17 various JetCat turbines and only had problems with 2 P-60s and they were minor. John Redman was there to assist me with them both and got me back on track. I have owned mostly TITANS and I must say that its great being able to fly time after time again with no problems. I have trusted: 2 BobCat XL, KingCat, 2 BVM Phantoms, BVM twin TITAN Rafale, BVM MiG 15, 2 BVM Sabres, BVM F-100D, BVM F-80, Composite Bandit, Super Bandit, Tams F-18 Super Hornet, and several others with NO flameouts or serious problems. When you fly a BVM Phantom its no joke to have one of these babys flame out on you in flight...........................................I trust my JetCats like my Depends Diapers! [sm=thumbup.gif] I know they got my back!
08-18-2007, 10:47 PM
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08-18-2007, 10:54 PM
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08-18-2007, 11:01 PM
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I trust my JetCats like my Depends Diapers! I know they got my back!
08-18-2007, 11:13 PM
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Well that was keeping it on topic
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I guess if you live in California, your Jetcat's run like an old Maytag and never have problems and the Jetcat service tech just sits waiting for an engine to come in for repair. So explain why it takes weeks if not months to get one back when it's sent in for repair? My first Jetcat failed on the third start attempt after having a total of six minutes of run time. Hardly a stellar reliability record but hey, S@#t happens. Send it back to CA for repair via priority mail and they get it three days later. Why should I have to wait almost three weeks before I see it again? No they weren't waiting on parts. It just got in line with the rest of the engines that never need repair. Point is that in general, Jetcat's are extremely reliable but when you have a problem, it shouldn't have to sit that long and from some other posts I have seen, three weeks is pretty good. JMO
Marty
.I guess if you live in California, your Jetcat's run like an old Maytag and never have problems and the Jetcat service tech just sits waiting for an engine to come in for repair. So explain why it takes weeks if not months to get one back when it's sent in for repair? My first Jetcat failed on the third start attempt after having a total of six minutes of run time. Hardly a stellar reliability record but hey, S@#t happens. Send it back to CA for repair via priority mail and they get it three days later. Why should I have to wait almost three weeks before I see it again? No they weren't waiting on parts. It just got in line with the rest of the engines that never need repair. Point is that in general, Jetcat's are extremely reliable but when you have a problem, it shouldn't have to sit that long and from some other posts I have seen, three weeks is pretty good. JMO
Marty
08-18-2007, 11:17 PM
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[X(] Seem to me the Jetcat people with commercial interest (Reps, Dealers) are getting very nervous about the great experiences being posted by mostly users (not reps) of Artes Jet turbines.
Think Jetcat is a good brand. It should not need the behaviors shown by a few people in this thread...[:'(]
Think Jetcat is a good brand. It should not need the behaviors shown by a few people in this thread...[:'(]
08-18-2007, 11:32 PM
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[X(] Seem to me the Jetcat people with commercial interest (Reps, Dealers) are getting very nervous about the great experiences being posted by mostly users (not reps) of Artes Jet turbines.
[X(] Seem to me the Jetcat people with commercial interest (Reps, Dealers) are getting very nervous about the great experiences being posted by mostly users (not reps) of Artes Jet turbines.
At least the Jetcat guys disclose their commercial affiliation. Wish we could say the same about the Artes guys - and you don't even need to be a bonafide rep to get a deal in exchange for promoting the Artes line. Even I have in the past been asked whether I might be interested in a discounted Artes turbine in exchange for saying nice things about it on RCU (without being a disclosable 'rep', of course). Didn't take me long to turn that offer down.
08-18-2007, 11:34 PM
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[quote]ORIGINAL: johnnyjet
Hi guys
As some of you may know, I have both a 120 JetCat and the JF-120 Super Eagle. I consider them the best of the best.
Nothing can compete with the reliability of the JetCat.
The JetCat is what all others are judged by, â
Hi guys
As some of you may know, I have both a 120 JetCat and the JF-120 Super Eagle. I consider them the best of the best.
Nothing can compete with the reliability of the JetCat.
The JetCat is what all others are judged by, â
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Hi johnnyjet,
Your description of the bias to performance over reliability takes me back again to the similarities with the RAM 1000. People had good ones but a lot of guys that ran them hard had trouble. I also heard a lot of compressor rumbles with the RAM and most people just tried to power through them. But in their hay day Rei and Albert would just send you new motor without a second thought. Thanks, Aman
Your description of the bias to performance over reliability takes me back again to the similarities with the RAM 1000. People had good ones but a lot of guys that ran them hard had trouble. I also heard a lot of compressor rumbles with the RAM and most people just tried to power through them. But in their hay day Rei and Albert would just send you new motor without a second thought. Thanks, Aman
08-18-2007, 11:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: afterburner
Well that was keeping it on topic.
I guess if you live in California, your Jetcat's run like an old Maytag and never have problems and the Jetcat service tech just sits waiting for an engine to come in for repair. So explain why it takes weeks if not months to get one back when it's sent in for repair? My first Jetcat failed on the third start attempt after having a total of six minutes of run time. Hardly a stellar reliability record but hey, S@#t happens. Send it back to CA for repair via priority mail and they get it three days later. Why should I have to wait almost three weeks before I see it again? No they weren't waiting on parts. It just got in line with the rest of the engines that never need repair. Point is that in general, Jetcat's are extremely reliable but when you have a problem, it shouldn't have to sit that long and from some other posts I have seen, three weeks is pretty good. JMO
Marty
Well that was keeping it on topic
.I guess if you live in California, your Jetcat's run like an old Maytag and never have problems and the Jetcat service tech just sits waiting for an engine to come in for repair. So explain why it takes weeks if not months to get one back when it's sent in for repair? My first Jetcat failed on the third start attempt after having a total of six minutes of run time. Hardly a stellar reliability record but hey, S@#t happens. Send it back to CA for repair via priority mail and they get it three days later. Why should I have to wait almost three weeks before I see it again? No they weren't waiting on parts. It just got in line with the rest of the engines that never need repair. Point is that in general, Jetcat's are extremely reliable but when you have a problem, it shouldn't have to sit that long and from some other posts I have seen, three weeks is pretty good. JMO
Marty
With all due respect, I don't believe anybody here said that Jet-Cats don't need maintanance, or they never require Crash repair.
I also would have a hard time believing that the Jet-Cat Quality is exclusive to the California crowd.
Just go to some of the Major events like Top Gun or Florida Jets. It is undeniable, the Jet-Cat Ratio to anything else.
At least I know that Artes was initially in California and we all gave them the test drive one way or other.
3 weeks repair time? Hmmmm
Maybe you caught them during their move?
JasonP
