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Old 07-17-2011, 02:22 PM
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Hi Guys, I finhised my F86 with a P80 on it, but the airplane became very Tail heavy, I have to put more the 1 pound of lead n the nose! It's that correct? I hate to put hat much dead weight on an airplane, any ideas?

Thanks

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Old 07-18-2011, 08:54 AM
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Ricardo I do not have any added weight in the nose of mine. I had a longer pipe built, moved the turbine forward as far as I could and moved everything else forward that I could inc batteries.
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Hi Guys, I finhised my F86 with a P80 on it, but the airplane became very Tail heavy, I have to put more the 1 pound of lead n the nose! It's that correct? I hate to put hat much dead weight on an airplane, any ideas?

Thanks

Ricardo Baptista

Ricardo i added the cockpit and a 1/6 F-86 full body pilot, this was all the weight that i needed to balance the SM F-86, i also have 2 A123 packs and a LI-ion 2700 pack in the nose.



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Old 08-05-2011, 11:02 AM
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Finally did the first flight on mine today. Started life as a white gel coat (I think there are some pics earlier in this thread).

Stumax SM100-45 fan on 11S TP packs. Could fly easily on 10S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgBIZ...el_video_title
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Hello CrHammond,

how did you fit the cockpit in? Did you trim the canopy/fuselage in any way? Mine just doesn't seem to fit... Do you have pictures with the canopy taken off?

Cheers, Martin
Old 09-20-2011, 04:25 PM
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Hey guys, I've got one of these in white gel cote with gear/scale doors and stabs done. May be putting up for sale. Any takers? Scott
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Hello everyone,

I found an interesting fact re. drop tanks:
Itseems that the restored Golden Hawks airplane has the tanks in a different position than the old ones had. Way more inboard, right next to the landing gear.
Check out these pictures. The first are of "Hawk One", the restored airplane. Next, the close-ups of the worn airplane I took myself in Canada. This is an original(one of the many) Golden Hawks Airplane sitting on a pylon somewhere in Ontario.And the last one is an old picture of the original Golden Hawks.

Now, what to do? I think, more outboard looks better. But Iam building Hawk One - so I will have to go inboard, right up to the landing gear, right?
And another obvious question is: Why? Why did they do that? Why would they change hard points, fixtures and so on? Must find out from Mary at HawkOne....
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Old 09-20-2011, 11:33 PM
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restored golden hawk have wing tank near fuselage respect the usually position in the f-86
maybe to have load near fuselage axis

I would put them in the traditional position...(in the wings are present the fixation point)

my f-86 with wing tank


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Very nice
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Hell Chrigui,

thanks for the fast reply. I have to think about it. I hate doing things not scale when I have the informationabout the original. But I would have to create new fixation points,I can see that. That might be difficult in the painted wing...

Can you also answer the cockpit question? Do you have pictures of the canopy removed? Did you trim the canopy in any way to fit the cockpit? Or did you trim the cockpit? when I put mine into the fuselage, the canopy will not fit. The lip on the front of the canopy is too large to fit between dash board and fuselage.

thanks in advance,

Martin
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if you want to reproduce new restored golden hawk you must to fit the tank near fuselage and you must to fit new
fix point...but you can reproduce old orginal golden hawk tank position ... (best way with wing painted) because tank fix point
are fitted in the wings ... (simply you can drill screw holes)

for the canopy i simply cut the clear but the cockpit is fitted without modification
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here wing tank fix point position
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Thanks Chrigui,

as for the cockpit: Did you fix it to the canopy, or to the fuselage? If to the fuselage, do you have a picture of the cockpit in place?
And do you have a picture of the underside of the canopy so Ican see the size of the rim going arount it? Mine just will not fit, as you can see in these pictures. The space between glare shield (top of dash board) and the front rim of the fuselage cut-out is too narrow. The second picture shows that the canopy will not fit in...I would have to cut the rim down quite a bit...
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I have the exact same problem with my cockpit. Haven't figured out yet how to fit it.
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I am not really there yet. Just starting ont the model. The canopy will be one of the last things, I guess. but I am curious anyhow...

I think I will cut the lip back and then - may be - fit a piece of carbon rod or carbon flat strip in the front of the canopy for re-inforcement.
It just strikes me that - given all the wonderful detail of the model and the thought that has gone into it, that non-functionalities are built and delivered without a comment..

Here are some pictures of the original cockpit of Hawk One. No gun visor for example (a holder for a hand-held Garmin GPS instead). All in light grey, different seat alltogether... Hmmm, what am I going to do about that?
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here wing tank fix point position
Chrigui, Thanks for the drawing, your F86 looks very nice! Can you please explain how to go about attaching the tanks? Step by step? I've had my F86 for a long time but been hesitant to attach them. Thanks!
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HI there,

there is a great step-by-step description in this thread. Just look at a few pages back... page 8 I believe, Post 188/189

Cheers, Martin
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i fitted the cockpi on the removable hatch...
simply fixed by silicone or adesive tape to remove it easy...
then i cut little part of black plastic panel to fit under the hatch
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HI there,

there is a great step-by-step description in this thread. Just look at a few pages back... page 8 I believe, Post 188/189

Cheers, Martin
Thank you! Here is a photo of mine, cut way back to allow the cockpit to fit properly.
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here the example
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Hello jclittle and chirigui,

thanks much. That helps a lot. So I see: the cockpit goes all the way into the canopy - even the side panels. I figure thata lot of guys put it in way too low. But when you see pictures of the original it appears as though the pilot is sitting high up like on a throne. So that makes sense. However, dose the rear part of the cockpit fit without bending down?

And how do you get the side panels actually into the canopy? I cant't seem to bend the canopy open wide enough and I can also not squeeze the cockpit together enough??????

Cheers, Martin
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I will take some photos tomorrow and post
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On mine I did trim back the front of the cockpit insert as well as the bottom flange on the canopy/hatch frame to make it fit. This change is not noticable once finished.

I inserted my canopy first and glued it in place. Then the cockpit floor is put up and held in place by a couple beads of silicone.

I wanted a complete free and clear inlet duct so I cut my pilot and cockpit down to bust level. I also installed a BVM rotating nose retract with associated formers.

Here's a few pics. The first is a pic of the full depth cockpit and full bodied 1/6 scale pilot. Next is with the canopy only in the frame. Third is the pilot/cockpit/canopy in place before paint. And the last 2 are after painting it.

The model is easy to get at so let me know if you want more pics. The model flies great and I'm really pleased with how it turned out.

Here's a couple flight vids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOppj...el_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYA5s...feature=relmfu
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Here are the photos, sorry about being late posting them.
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:35 AM
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Thanks guys.

Re: the beacon behind the seat: I can't seem to find information on that. Is that the regular Anti Collision Beacon? Does anyone know anything about the flash cycle of that beacon?

Cheers, Martin

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