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Old 11-23-2008, 01:04 AM
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With only a week to go before the closing date for entries, only the host country (Israel) is listed as competing.
It appears, the credit crunch is having a severe effect.
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What is the credit crunch ?
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What is the credit crunch ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/migrationtemp/2812608/Idiot's-guide-to-the-credit-crunch-explained.html
Old 11-24-2008, 04:26 AM
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A team from South Africa is definately going.
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Japan only entered in the 1st and 2nd WJM .. I want to enter for 2011 but we have no one here as a REP and unless I want to become the REP here, we here in Japan will NOT be entering any WJM and this REALLY SUCKS BIG TIME![sm=cry_smile.gif]

The Japanese Guy on the IMJC site is not the Japanese Rep, it is just that IMJC have not removed his name from their site.


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Jim

I suspect the entry will be reduced somewhat from 2007. To take the English speaking nations only at 2007 WJM England had a team of six as did USA, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Australia had one.By my arithmetic that is twenty fve entries. So far it appears that the US have only three team members, England four, Scotland and Northern Ireland none confirmed so far and Australia one, that is a total of eight, a drop of seventeen since 2007. The Arab nations will not be there so that is around another four less than Northern Ireland.

My guess would be around 60 entries in total, down from 86 I think last time. I am sure the credit crunch is having an effect.

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The Arab nations will not be there so that is around another four less than Northern Ireland.

That's even more. You have to count the non Arabic people who live in an Arabic country and therefore cannot go to Israel.
I know already 3 more guys including myself...
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The Japanese Guy on the IMJC site is not the Japanese Rep, it is just that IMJC have not removed his name from their site.



Any official notification of additions or retractions of IJMC members has to be directed to the IJMC board by either email, or letter, or by attendance at an IJMC meeting via a proposal to that effect.

As far as I am aware, no official notice has been given to the IJMC to have any rep removed/included from Japan. If any notice had been issued, then I would have been asked to edit the IJMC members site accordingly by the IJMC Chairman and/or board.

However, if in the future any official notification does come in, I will edit the details accordingly.

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I am not sure here....
Why cant you/they go ??
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I am not sure here....
Why cant you/they go ??
Most Arab countries ban their citizens from travel to Israel. In fact, only 3 of 21 Arab countries recognizes Israel as a state.

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I am not sure here....
Why cant you/they go ??
Most Arab countries ban their citizens from travel to Israel. In fact, only 3 of 21 Arab countries recognizes Israel as a state.

So Israel allows them to come over... but their own countries dont allow them to visit/compete ? nice....
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I think it is just a misunderstanding: Those Arab government hear the words "Israeli" and "Jets" in the same sentence and break out in a cold sweat
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Hello all

I am pleased to update you on the following Registration Countries & Teams for the 2009 Jet World Masters :

South Africa -5 pilots

Germany- 6 Pilots

Belgium - 2 pilots

U.S.A.- 4 pilots

Czech Republic / CZE- 1 pilot

Russia- 2 pilots

Israel - 5 pilots

We had already got registration approval from many other countries that need to complete there technical arrangements

Hopefully all will be able to send us the forms before November 30th 2008

As for now we know that we will have many supporters
(That can be register by March 2009)

We invite you all to look for more details on the web regarding the filed and the progress.

Enjoy the Demo Pictures:

As for all Nations, we urge you all to Visit Israel as spectators. Israel welcomes all who wants to Visit.

We do expect it to be the Largest JWM Ever and we need all the RC Jet Pilots support .

Hurry and complete the registration

Welcome to Israel

Avi Ambar
Head of the 2009 JWM Organizing team
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Dave,

How can I enter the WJM for 2011?

I contacted Mr Hiroshi Hoya a few months ago, he said he emailed IJMC to be removed from the list but was told he was the only person in Japan so was asked to keep his name on the list until Japan could get a new Rep.

I asked Mr Hoya about entering 2011 and he said he has nothing to do with IJMC and I would have to wait until Japan got a new Rep. Japan only entered the first 2 Masters and have not had a team or pilot since and at this rate I do not see them having a New Rep. I enquired about becoming the New Rep for Japan, but I am new to Jets and was told to wait until I have a few more years piloting skills, which I have to agree with!





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Shigure,

Email me directly at [email protected]

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We also are going

The netherlands
For sure 1

Best regards,
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Hi Shigure,

You do not need to be a member of the IJMC to compete in the Jet Masters, all you need is a jet and the inclination to enter.
If you wish to be a Member of the IJMC all you have to do is contact Winnie Ohlgart, our Chairman, or any other Member of the Board and they will deal with your request. The contact information is on the IJMC Website.
I hope you will decde to go to the Jet Masters, it will be a pleasure to meet you, along with all the other jet pilots.

Bill Grimsley.

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Hi Shigure,

You do not need to be a member of the IJMC to compete in the Jet Masters, all you need is a jet and the inclination to enter.

Hi Bill,

Correct in what you say, he does not need to be an IJMC member, but he does need to either check/verify with the current IJMC rep for Japan or run the risk of "stepping on toes" so to speak if he just enters himself. If this was not so, there could be a situation there 2 or more different teams applied to fly from the same country at the JWM, and this would be a difficult/imposible situation. (as only 6 pilots from any one country may enter a single JWM of that year.)

As you said, it would be best he become an IJMC rep if the current rep is no longer interested in retaining his post. The more IJMC reps per country the better if a situation like this arrises.

Dave
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I am not sure here....
Why cant you/they go ??
Most Arab countries ban their citizens from travel to Israel. In fact, only 3 of 21 Arab countries recognizes Israel as a state.

So Israel allows them to come over... but their own countries dont allow them to visit/compete ? nice....
Yes this is more or less correct.
To be more precise, I can perfectly enter Israel. The problem is that as soon as I get an Israeli custom stamp on my visa, I will be banned for Dubai.
Then of course I'll lose my job...
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Hi Oliver

Regarding your comment on the Visa and Passport:

When you enter Israel you can ask the border control officers not to stamp your Passport , they will give you a special paper that you can throw away when you leave.

Best Regards

and welcome to Israel
Avi Ambar

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Here is the solution to Middle East peace: Get all Arab and Israeli leaders together (location not relevant) and stick a transmitter in their hands with jets on the other end. Then have the traditional bar-b-q and pilots' awards on the last day, send everyone back home with a firm date for the next jet meet fly-in. Problem solved!
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Hello all

I am pleased to update you on the following Registration Countries & Teams for the 2009 Jet World Masters :

South Africa -5 pilots

Germany- 6 Pilots

Belgium - 2 pilots

U.S.A.- 4 pilots

Czech Republic / CZE- 1 pilot

Russia- 2 pilots

Israel - 5 pilots

We had already got registration approval from many other countries that need to complete there technical arrangements

Hopefully all will be able to send us the forms before November 30th 2008

As for now we know that we will have many supporters
(That can be register by March 2009)

We invite you all to look for more details on the web regarding the filed and the progress.

Enjoy the Demo Pictures:

As for all Nations, we urge you all to Visit Israel as spectators. Israel welcomes all who wants to Visit.

We do expect it to be the Largest JWM Ever and we need all the RC Jet Pilots support .

Hurry and complete the registration

Welcome to Israel

Avi Ambar
Head of the 2009 JWM Organizing team

That is one nice field you boys have there!!!!!

Have fun...
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Most Arab countries ban their citizens from travel to Israel. In fact, only 3 of 21 Arab countries recognizes Israel as a state.

I think you would find out ALL Islamic Countries tell their citizens NOT to travel to Israel .. 2 of my X-Girls friends were from Malaysia and Indonesia and on their passports it stated that they were NOT allowed to enter Israel .. So it is not just Arab Nations ..
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Shigure,

Email me directly at [email protected]

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Correct in what you say, he does not need to be an IJMC member, but he does need to either check/verify with the current IJMC rep for Japan or run the risk of "stepping on toes" so to speak if he just enters himself. If this was not so, there could be a situation there 2 or more different teams applied to fly from the same country at the JWM, and this would be a difficult/imposible situation. (as only 6 pilots from any one country may enter a single JWM of that year.)



Hi Dave,

Your right, all entrants should go through the IJMC Rep for his particular country. However, if there is no rep for said country,or he isn't known, then the right way to find out is to contact the IJMC direct. By doing this he will not be causing any problems with any fellow jet pilots in his country, as they will give him the information he requires.

Bill Grimsley

IJMC Press Officer


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