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Old 01-22-2009, 07:29 PM
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Default FASST 2.4 FOR JETS - SAFE ?

Hi guys

I saw in many forums hear, some problems about interference in FASST system, well, I lost my new BANDIT ARF in 9 flight, with FUTABA 12 FG 2.4 FASST, after much quarrel, I accepted to be battery unloaded for the evidences of my flight, well, now I'm fear!!!! I have read many situations ( this case JR )
( http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8363154/tm.htm ) that leave me unsafe, would like opinions of jet pilots about this system ( FASST ) in FUTABA 12 FG.
Ok, let me know guys, please.

thank's

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Old 01-22-2009, 07:32 PM
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Plenty of folks flying fasst, just cause I wouldn't.......doesn't mean its not safe.

Sorry about your loss. I love bandits.





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Old 01-22-2009, 08:02 PM
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I fly both Fasst works great and so does Spectrum. Would just be preference.


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Old 01-22-2009, 08:13 PM
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Hi Jose

Sorry for your loss.....

One budy of mine lost his F16 flying Fasst. He had both small antennas outside the airplane arguing that he would get a better signal that way[&:] After the crash he realised that the antenna cover had suffered a hit and the metal mesh inside collapsed thus inducing lack of signal. Bottom end is:

he thinks that he damaged the antenna mesh. Here is a video from the crash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ZaK...e=channel_page

There are several other guys using the fasst with no issue. I myself will change one of these days....
regards

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Old 01-22-2009, 08:46 PM
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Hi Jose

Sorry for your loss.....

One budy of mine lost his F16 flying Fasst. He had both small antennas outside the airplane arguing that he would get a better signal that way[&:] After the crash he realised that the antenna cover had suffered a hit and the metal mesh inside collapsed thus inducing lack of signal. Bottom end is:

he thinks that he damaged the antenna mesh. Here is a video from the crash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ZaK...e=channel_page

There are several other guys using the fasst with no issue. I myself will change one of these days....
regards

Nuno
I noticed that the turbine was running he entire time. Did your friend have failsafe/turbine shutdown enabled? If he did have it enabled then the cause of the may not have been loss of signal.
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Jose,

I have been flying the 2.4 Fasst system in jets for over a year now (in many different jets) with both my 12Z and 14MZ, using the 6014 receiver. I encountered 1 issue in an installation on a very large F-86 that had chrome paint, but we moved the receiver into a better location and repositioned the antennas and have not had another issue since - in any of the planes, including that F-86.

The best thing to do for your own personal satisfaction is after installing it, have it running with a friend standing near the model, and start walking, do a long range test with the motor running and move the model 90° every 10 seconds or so testing all the surfaces while its in each position. Be sure the helper doesn't stand directly in your line of sight. That is how I test a new installation.
Old 01-22-2009, 08:57 PM
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I have it in 3 Jets and 1 gasser no problems, other than heat for the 6014 I love the system. Heat is not an issue here in Canada

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i also have many flights with the fasst on six jets and have had no problems to date
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Default RE: FASST 2.4 FOR JETS - SAFE ?

Great guys,

thank you for all!!!!!
very good for hearing experiences.

thank you

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Default RE: FASST 2.4 FOR JETS - SAFE ?

thank's Shulman

for your attention and your great experience with FUTABA SYSTEM, not only for me, but, for all guys.

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ORIGINAL: josecilurzo


, I accepted to be battery unloaded for the evidences of my flight, well, now I'm fear!!!! I
How many receiver batteries, and what type, were you using ?

Regards,

David Gladwin.
Old 01-22-2009, 10:43 PM
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Hi Jose,
20 flights on jet and 10 flights on 60 size glow helicopter. No problem at all, cero glitch.

Just follow David Shulman´s recommendations.

Best Regards,
Ricardo.
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Default RE: FASST 2.4 FOR JETS - SAFE ?

Jose,

There is a huge thread on here about FASST:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_61...tm.htm#6188151

There are many of us flying FASST in jets and our experiences are posted here. Included is some of the testing I've done with FASST in UAV's. We have seen airborne ranges of well over a mile with FASST with absolutely no problems - the system is *rock solid*

Bob
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Default RE: FASST 2.4 FOR JETS - SAFE ?

I have over 50 flights in a cermark F-16 edf
20 flights on Tam Jet A-4
hundreds of flight on a P-51
well over 50 on a 30% extra
and many other planes (all my planes, heli's, park flyers).. last summer a logged tons of flight and never had a single glitch ...just rock solid

IMHO futaba Fasst is by a long shot the best system on the market

I love it.. very simple to install and use

Thank you Futaba!!

Ron
Old 01-22-2009, 10:55 PM
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FASST changes frequency within 2.4GHz's available range rapidly. No chance to get significant lock out from single frequency or some frequencies. DSM2 only uses two frequencies thus if the two frequencies are overlapped from other then lose control. But the possibility of this situation is quite low.
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Over 120 flights and counting. The only problem with FASST is the totally annoying way to do a range check. I hope that futaba will add a button just like JR / Spektrum.

Arnaud
Old 01-23-2009, 02:11 AM
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Have had no problem whatsoever with FASST. 16 receivers so far, 2 TX.
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Default RE: FASST 2.4 FOR JETS - SAFE ?

Thank's again guys, nice hear everybody about that system, well, our planes are very expensive, I flight only BVM with JETCAT and WREN, I search the best in flight equipment, and my next step is : CARF ROOKIE WITH RTI 2800!!!

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF HAVE FLIGHT LOG TO FUTABA ???


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Hi David,

I use ELECTRODYNAMICS EDR 108 with two switchs ( redundant system ), my batteries are 2 PACKS NIMH 2.700 mah in all my planes.

jose [8D]
Old 01-23-2009, 10:33 AM
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Jose I have been using FAAST on all my jets with no problems. Also in our field everyone with jets is on FAAST and we have had cero issues.

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Jose

I too have Fasst on all my jets and have had no problems. I use 12Fg Tx.

Could you have problem with the EDR 108 or batteries?

John
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Ola Michel!!! que tal??

thank you for help too, you have more experience!!!
happy new year for you !!!!!
I hope fly in CHILE with you.

jose
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Hello John,

I never had problem with power system by ELECTRODYNAMICS, is a great system.


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Ola Michel!!! que tal??

thank you for help too, you have more experience!!!
happy new year for you !!!!!
I hope fly in CHILE with you.

jose
Hi Jose anytime you are welcome to fly with us my friend...
Happy New Year to you too...
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Default RE: FASST 2.4 FOR JETS - SAFE ?

I have FASST (12FG) in all of my models, Jets, Heli, Prop. All of our club use it and most of a second club i am in.
I have had zero issues, great system, loads of range, rock solid.

Just do a good range check as said on a new installation.

Paul

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