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Old 03-13-2009, 05:59 AM
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jet central, wren, amt.....

What do you think, will they follow jetcat for the price reduction?
Old 03-13-2009, 06:29 AM
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Wren Turbines USA began lowering prices back in January......
Old 03-13-2009, 06:54 AM
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will they follow jetcat for the price reduction?
This is a case of JetCat following others, not others following JetCat!

Wren prices have always been competitive, and the fall in the value of the British pound over the last few months has meant price reductions on our engines. Several other manufacturers (both within and outside Europe) already had lower prices than JetCat anyway, so perhaps they are just keeping up with the market.

It's good news for the customers!

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I just ordered a Artes Falcon, so prices will drop the day after I get it.
Old 03-13-2009, 08:32 AM
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I just ordered a Artes Falcon, so prices will drop the day after I get it.

And you also got an excellent service, support and the only brand engine with a real Life Time Warranty. All this with a true thrust output.
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If you compare thrust for thrust, the p-80se is $500 cheaper than the supersport and have 2 pound more of thurst.[8D]
Old 03-13-2009, 09:30 AM
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If you compare thrust for thrust, the p-80se is $500 cheaper than the supersport and have 2 pound more of thurst.[8D]
Yeah, but the P-80 is the size of a house, weighs a ton and might take a whole flying season to get serviced/repaired. [:-]
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If you compare thrust for thrust, the p-80se is $500 cheaper than the supersport and have 2 pound more of thurst.[8D]
Yeah, but the P-80 is the size of a house, weighs a ton and might take a whole flying season to get serviced/repaired. [:-]
uuhhhhhhmmmm duh! ok your right , sometimes
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I bought a Wren 160 last December for under £2200, or approx US$3080. It was already vastly cheaper than the JC.
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Doesn't sound like AMT USA / US Microjet will be around much longer.

The boys from AMT Netherlands are doing a great job!!!! Honest, easy to deal with, they do what they say and have a great product with many happy customers.
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I just ordered a Artes Falcon, so prices will drop the day after I get it.

And you also got an excellent service, support and the only brand engine with a real Life Time Warranty. All this with a true thrust output.
This is my first turbine and all the research I've done over the past few months leads me to agree (and hope) with all you said.

Its just my luck there will be a price reduction next week after it gets to the house.

It won't make me regret my purchase, just the timing!!
Old 03-13-2009, 11:12 AM
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And what about the Merlin 90 ?

Certified minimum full thrust: 95N (21lb) at 152.000 RPM


Diameter: 90mm (3.5â€)

Engine weight: 1010g (2.2lb) (including mounting strap)
Airborne weight: 1,200g

Fuel: Kerosene + 3% - 5% oil (synthetic 2T motorcycle oil or turbine oil).

Pressure ratio: 3.1 to 1

EGT max: 620ºC

Massflow: 180g/sec

Fuel comsumption: 350ml/min at 95N (11,5oz/min at 21lb)

200ml/min at 60N (6,6oz/min at 13,1lb)

Price: Gas Start version 1.800€ excluding VAT

All the engines I have tried ( 5 so far ) have given me a nominal thrust of 100 N with peak EGTs as cold as 570 °c.
The version I am running right now on the Phoenix is capable of 110N. Gaspar is working on a new compressor design that will improve the reliability at these level of thrust.


I believe that this one is setting the industry standard right now. Not the Booster anymore...
Old 03-14-2009, 05:41 AM
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ORIGINAL: olnico

And what about the Merlin 90 ?

Certified minimum full thrust: 95N (21lb) at 152.000 RPM


Diameter: 90mm (3.5â€)

Engine weight: 1010g (2.2lb) (including mounting strap)
Airborne weight: 1,200g

Fuel: Kerosene + 3% - 5% oil (synthetic 2T motorcycle oil or turbine oil).

Pressure ratio: 3.1 to 1

EGT max: 620ºC

Massflow: 180g/sec

Fuel comsumption: 350ml/min at 95N (11,5oz/min at 21lb)

200ml/min at 60N (6,6oz/min at 13,1lb)

Price: Gas Start version 1.800€ excluding VAT

All the engines I have tried ( 5 so far ) have given me a nominal thrust of 100 N with peak EGTs as cold as 570 °c.
The version I am running right now on the Phoenix is capable of 110N. Gaspar is working on a new compressor design that will improve the reliability at these level of thrust.


I believe that this one is setting the industry standard right now. Not the Booster anymore...

And what about the JC Rabbit. Basically identical to the merlin 90 except it looks better!!!!!!!!

Mav[8D]
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Zonker123:

Thank you for selecting Jet Central's Falcon. Twenty two pounds of thrust, Lifteime Warranty as well as a complete turn key package. Welcome to the fastest growing turbine family in existance today!
Our phenominal sales at FJ 09 tell us that we have it right. . .right price, right value, right package, right thrust options and without question, the right team. We were in full force withour support team assisting with everything from installs to minor adjustments.

Please note: If we for any reason reduce prices in the next quarter, you will be refunded the difference or offered product credit in exchange. At this time, there are no plans to increase or decrease our prices.

Best regards,
Eric Clapp
Old 03-15-2009, 09:23 AM
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Hi Eric, you know what , i'm getting ready to buy a jc rabbit, the size and thrust is exactly what i need, and if the price change and you give a credit , that is a great service.

Thanks
Old 03-15-2009, 10:31 AM
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Where is the Rabbit ?
http://www.jetartes.com/Products/products.html
Old 03-15-2009, 10:46 AM
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Where is the Rabbit ?
http://www.jetartes.com/Products/products.html
http://www.jetcentral.com.mx/english/rabbit.html
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All you need is the correct thrust to the correct engines output .
Old 03-15-2009, 01:00 PM
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Hi Eric, you know what , i'm getting ready to buy a jc rabbit, the size and thrust is exactly what i need, and if the price change and you give a credit , that is a great service.

Thanks
You will not be dissapointed. I love mine more and more every weekend.
They nailed it with that little sucker.

What we need now is a Jet Central Falcon sized turbine that can put out 30 lbs of thrust. I'm sure you guys must have plans of using the same technology on larger engines, right?
Old 03-15-2009, 01:42 PM
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Hi Eric, you know what , i'm getting ready to buy a jc rabbit, the size and thrust is exactly what i need, and if the price change and you give a credit , that is a great service.

Thanks
You will not be dissapointed. I love mine more and more every weekend.
They nailed it with that little sucker.

What we need now is a Jet Central Falcon sized turbine that can put out 30 lbs of thrust. I'm sure you guys must have plans of using the same technology on larger engines, right?
Pity the UK guy who sells them is some bloke in his bedroom - I'd get more rights buying one through ebay!

I'm in the market for an 18-20lb turbine and when you take out those that are sold through a retail premises, those that are serviced in the UK, your pretty much left only with one choice, which of course is the most expensive one

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