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Old 04-01-2010, 11:58 PM
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Hello gentlemen,

I'm hoping you can all offer some advice to a complete turbine newbie. I've decided that I will begin to acquire the pieces for my first jet and hopefully complete it sometime next year. I've been flying for about 5 years now ranging from parkflyers to 125+mph EDF jets.

I'm looking at purchasing a used P-80 or P-60 (non SE) for around $1750. What I can't decide on is the airframe. I really don't like how the "cat" series planes look, and while I would much prefer a fighter, I know its not where I need to start out. And there in lies the issue. I need a plane that looks good (sport jet style, fighter, etc.) that is very 'trainer' like for the turbine newbie. I've been thinking of things like the following and wondering if any of them might be a good fit:

* Global Jet Club F4D Skyray
* FeiBao L-39
* Skymaster Dragon

I'd love to hear what you guys have to say .... nothing to small at this point.

Many thanks in advance!
Old 04-02-2010, 12:40 AM
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Tamjet F-16
TamJet A-4
Global Jet F-86
Skymaster F-15

TamJet is in San Jose, so you get the benefit of local support.
Old 04-02-2010, 01:23 AM
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t-45/hawk

or ifn yer really adventurous, i gots a jet legends f-20 kit here.
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There is always the PST Reaction and reVision as well
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Default RE: First turbine .... airframe suggestions

There is an awful lot to be said for getting a Boomerang Intro as a first jet.

There is a lot to learn about installation and operation and airborne turbine response times.

The BI makes it easy and they sell like hot cakes used.

Oh yes and they are a lot of fun to fly!
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or ifn yer really adventurous, i gots a jet legends f-20 kit here.
yea thats a great suggestion for a first jet.... one that has multiple stab failure issues in-flight..

if you dont know what i'm talking about see the "jet legends buyer beware" thread.
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http://search.rcuniverse.com/search....rchwhere=forum

Or the viper2M from xtreme.
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Thanks for the recommendations everyone. I will spend some time researching each of the airframes mentioned, and looking thru the search results provided.

I also appreciate all the PMs.

I'm very excited about putting together a jet, but I want to make sure that I go about it in a logical fashion and don't let the whole "MUST HAVE" syndrome kick in

Don
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Avonds F-15
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The BVM F-86 and a p-60 are a perfect combination. Or if you are up for a sport jet the BVM Electra and p-60 or a bandit arf and p-60 or p-80 are also a good start.
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hey, i did say, he would have to be really adventurous.
don't know what happened to the <G> that i put on it.


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TBM Shokjet or if you really want to learn what it's all about, LD jet mach 60!!!! After these, then start sinking some money into it!!!
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Hello gentlemen,

I'm hoping you can all offer some advice to a complete turbine newbie. I've decided that I will begin to acquire the pieces for my first jet and hopefully complete it sometime next year. I've been flying for about 5 years now ranging from parkflyers to 125+mph EDF jets.

I'm looking at purchasing a used P-80 or P-60 (non SE) for around $1750. What I can't decide on is the airframe. I really don't like how the ''cat'' series planes look, and while I would much prefer a fighter, I know its not where I need to start out. And there in lies the issue. I need a plane that looks good (sport jet style, fighter, etc.) that is very 'trainer' like for the turbine newbie. I've been thinking of things like the following and wondering if any of them might be a good fit:

* Global Jet Club F4D Skyray
* FeiBao L-39
* Skymaster Dragon

I'd love to hear what you guys have to say .... nothing to small at this point.

Many thanks in advance!
Gp
If your looking to spend About $1750 for a motor Check out the KingTech K80

http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=611116

You would get a brand new motor with a warrenty for the same money. The motor runs great. Contact Barry at www.kingtechusa.com and he can set you up Here is a link to the one that I have.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9625485/tm.htm

Good Luck
Joe Lewis
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Old 04-05-2010, 02:06 AM
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Thanks for the PMs and info regarding more engines everyone, I truly appreciate it!

After spending a little time researching, what do you all think about the Fei Bao Velox? It seems like a nice plane at the right price point, and everything I've seen seems like its a nice flying plane as well. Any thoughts/feedback is appreciated.

Don
Old 04-05-2010, 03:07 AM
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Havnt had one or seen one fly. Personally I would reccomend a Boomerang Intro or better still is the Elan.
Old 04-06-2010, 10:42 AM
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I wanted my first jet to be easy to fly, yet be a scale subject. I found that there were few "trainers" out there that actually looked scale. I ended up bashing a Ziroli Turbinator into a TS-11 Iskra (Powered by a Jet Central Rabbit). I'll be getting the maiden flight done as soon as I can line up the guys to sign me off and some good weather.
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I agree about the Jet Mach 60 suggestion! Lots of room for stuff, super simple to build and flys like a trainer. It is perfect for learning how everything works and the design of the plane is super forgiving for bone head mistakes. I can't recommend it enough. The Zirolli Turbinator is another good choice if you want a low wing design with retracts. I just happen to have a kit for sale on RCU if interested.
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As much as it feels odd to say it ..... the Boomerangs are growing on me!! I like the fact the break down rather quickly which makes it viable to move the plane around in my daily driver, they slow down very nicely, and have a decent top end too boot.

The only thing I don't really like the idea of is spending $700 on gear for a $795 airframe. Retracts are a must, but does anyone know if there are any other 'drop in' options for the Sprint or Nano then the ProLinks or Behotec??

Thanks again for all the information and PMs, your help so far has been invaluable!
Don
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Sent you a pm.
Spring air will fit in the boomerang.

Kevin
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Don,
look at the ProLynx gears from Digitech: http://shop.digitech-turbines.com/pr...oducts_id=1440
Note the prices he has on the web is including tax, I think if shipped outside EU you can remove the tax (19% or so IIRC)
I have ProLynx on all my jets except 1, and they are simply just great !
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I am in fairfield too. I fly at vaca valley. If i get into jets I would buy the king tech engine. like said here brand new life time service. cant beat that. I would also look for some used airframes since already build and cheaper than building new. this way can fly and then work on a kit to build what you want.
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ProLynx or Prolinks?? This is harder then I thought LOL

Do the ProLynx have the air bottles and the rest of the plumbing included at that price Carsten? They are certainly nice looking gear and if I'm doing the dollar conversion right (and your correct about the VAT) they are certainly attractive for $450.

Spring airs are always a great option as well ......... gotta love their track record.

Thanks for the info and food for thought fellas,
Don
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Don:

Stay away from the Velox as your first airframe, any A-4 as well, the best flying/easiest to fly/best looks and best bang for the buck of all suggested are the Tamjets or Cermark F-16's, you already have experience with moderately fast EDF's, so you no longer need a straight wing airframe, so I would kick the Boomers out the door.. While they both Tam's and Cermark's 16's fly the same since they come from basically the same mould, they are not the same, Tam's is more expensive, but better built.

There is a Cermark original airframe for sale on the classifieds for $595 or so, needs the tanks and pipe... hey!!! I have those!!! if you decide to go for it let me know...

The 16 will not accept a P-80, the max is a P-70, but the good folks here would tell you to stay away from the P-80 too, even the SE... Both 16's would actually be excellently powered by the Kingtech K-80...
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ProLynx or Prolinks?? This is harder then I thought LOL

Do the ProLynx have the air bottles and the rest of the plumbing included at that price Carsten? They are certainly nice looking gear and if I'm doing the dollar conversion right (and your correct about the VAT) they are certainly attractive for $450.

Spring airs are always a great option as well ......... gotta love their track record.

Thanks for the info and food for thought fellas,
Don
Don,
nope, don't think so, you will have to add the airtank and some valves (either eletronic or mechanical)
I use the EVU types on Digitechs website, works fine (and very easy to install!)
Old 05-18-2010, 02:57 AM
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Any feedback on the Global Jet Club F86, Hawk, or FlyEagleJets F-15? I managed to pickup a P120 so thats what the power plant will be.

Thanks!
Don

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