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Old 12-28-2012, 06:41 AM
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Hi!

I just recieved one of the last Skyrunners from the old plugs:




All the kit-content weights 1550g. Pretty nice kit that comes with all needed hardware. There are threaded inserts already molded in the wing to bolt the rudders in place. We are almost ready building the Skyrunner and I have to say, the biggest job was getting all the stickers on. I have to say, the packing of ours was crap as well, fortunatelly my Skyrunner arrived with no damage. Thommy Gleissner sent me some pictures of the new production ones with updated turbine-mount for P-20. Unfortunatelly I am not able to upload pictures to the forum at the moment.

Best regards,

David
Old 12-28-2012, 09:25 AM
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Very nice,



can you upload a photo of the turbine mount area?

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Very happy to tell that I got a very friendly e-mail from AirWorld informing me that they will take over my claim with the insurance/carrier, and will replace my crushed kit in February.

In the meantime, AirWorld has also discontinued to produce with the original STO moulds, and have made their own now, including a few nice modifications.
One of these is a bit larger turbine bay, to accomodate (also) the mounting straps and larger diameter of the JetCat P-20 better.
The original plug was made in early 2009 solely for the Lambert Kolibri. JetCat P-20 did not exist yet.

Without a doubt, this will be one of the nicest and easiest model jets to build, ever.

The photo here in attachment is from Mr. David Büsken (see the thread on the German RC Network for more of his pics : http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showt...00-Video/page4 ).

Henke was right, Martin Lambert is much easier to reach by phone than by writing... although calling him is an expensive experience : I have now a new Lambert Kolibri T25HP on order for this bird.

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Old 01-14-2013, 09:59 AM
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ORIGINAL: tahfiet

Hi!

I just recieved one of the last Skyrunners from the old plugs:




All the kit-content weights 1550g. Pretty nice kit that comes with all needed hardware. There are threaded inserts already molded in the wing to bolt the rudders in place. We are almost ready building the Skyrunner and I have to say, the biggest job was getting all the stickers on. I have to say, the packing of ours was crap as well, fortunatelly my Skyrunner arrived with no damage. Thommy Gleissner sent me some pictures of the new production ones with updated turbine-mount for P-20. Unfortunatelly I am not able to upload pictures to the forum at the moment.

Best regards,

David
What servos are you gonna use?
Old 02-15-2013, 01:06 AM
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:38 AM
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I did receive this morning an e-mail and a phone call from Airworld to inform me about the shipment of the new Skyrunner.
The reason why it took so long, is the discussion with the forwarder and the related insurance company.
To keep the story short, the insurance company at first denied completely their responsability to pay for the fault of the transport company, because they had the signature of my wife who signed off to the driver for the acceptance of the parcel.
Of course, the driver had been showing the box topside-up where the delivery address etcetera was, and did not show the bottom side which was crushed during the upside-down transportation with a heavy square object on top. (Is my english understandable ?)
When I claimed immediately to the local office of the transporting company upon my arrival home less than one hour later, they told me on the phone that they would accept my claim, because I did have photos of the unopened carton, and this, despite the fact that my wife had signed already. I did also file the complaint officially, like they told me, to their head office in Belgium. I got as an e-mail reply, soon afterwards, that since I was not the one who made the transport order to them, but the shipper (being Airworld), that they (Airworld) should file the complaint to the head office in Germany. From then on, I do understand now, the transporter changed their point of view.
Strictly juridically speaking, Airworld said, since they had a signature (of my wife), they suddenly denied at first any responsibility whatsoever.
Only through severe commercial negotiations, Airworld could obtain a promise that they would refund the full value to them. Up to today, they have not received it back into their account, but decided nonetheless to replace the broken part of the kit. For which I am grateful.
This should be under its way now to my house (while I am sitting here in an airport leaving again until March 1 [>:] )
I do hope that my chances of good luck are much better now, and the content will arrive in good shape during my absence this time (and yes, my wife will be a lot more careful with her signature now, she said )
If there is a good side about this whole story, it will be that the new Skyrunner will be coming from the newly adjusted moulds (see my previous posts), and that I will have a good reason to share a glass of bubbly with the people of Airworld during the next JetPower, while my frustration of the last months will have turned, without any doubt, into the childish enthousiasm of a kid finally having received his candy.
I do thank Airworld for the solutions provided, and apologize if I was impatient for having this exceptional model in my little hands sooner than I could blink my eyes.
After all, we are kids with these kind of hobby toys.

Nicolas.
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I have just opened the second box, and must say in all honesty, after a few weeks of having been a bit discouraged after the transportation mishap during the first delivery, I am really very impressed with the second one.
Not only the packing was so much better done, also the plane itself was of even better production quality.

First of all, I would like to thank Airworld for the very explicit invitation to come and have 12 glasses of red wine with them at JetPower. (6 front side and 6 back side, see photo)
Which, I will accept with gratitude, but I do understand also that they surely would not like me to fly with it, given the suggested level of intoxication.



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Old 03-16-2013, 04:00 AM
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This box did arrive in perfect condition and it was obvious, even before opening, that the content inside was much better protected.
This one was a world apart from the first delivery back in December.
My first box was having just the plane wrapped in a single layer of bubble foam and bouncing around in the box.
The second one was a fantastic example how you can make someone drool for seeing more of it.
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Old 03-16-2013, 04:07 AM
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This white squid was swimming in a soup of wasabi crisps, after been packed in a custom made bubble foam sleeve.

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Old 03-16-2013, 04:09 AM
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First thing I did notice immediately, was the superb carbon fibre canopy, and the new engine bay, which is now a bit wider in order to accept also the JetCat P-20SX type of turbines with ease.
The four black pins you see, are threaded rods 3mm for mounting a turbine with secure nuts. According to the manual, this should be (as a kit standard) the mounting dimensions for a JetCat P-20SX.
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Old 03-16-2013, 04:14 AM
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Second point what immediately attracts your attention is the superb craftmanship done on the flex hinging and the servo bays.
Absolutely top class.

This was not just cutting out the tailerons, they also sanded the taileron corners in the factory, so you do not need to spend any attention to proper movement of these anymore.

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Old 03-16-2013, 04:17 AM
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As this model is to be hand launched, Airworld adjusted the mould at the bottom side of the fuselage to have more grip there.
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Here you can see the mods they have done in the turbine bay (left is the Skyrunner of the previous moulds, right is the Skyrunner from the new moulds).
Note that the whole plane (except for the canopy and the fins) is made out of one piece, and I can imagine, out of my own experience, that laminating and even more taking the form out of such a complex curved mould, must be a moment of huge stress for the manufacturer ! (My congratulations, by the way !)
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Old 03-16-2013, 04:25 AM
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The new carbon fibre canopy is soooooooooo much nicer than the previous mat black painted fibreglass one !
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It is also obvious that Airworld also took the opportunity to make a much better defined and slick polished new plug and mould... and they corrected the minor mistakes.
(However, I must say I did not really spend any attention to it,... until you see the better twin sister next to her, of course).

The surface quality is also a lot better, the new plug & moulds were much more polished and it clearly shows in a product which is much more glossy and shiny as well.

It is so good, that painting a Skyrunner (and hence, adding weight to it) is perhaps to be considered as a true shame. Better to ask them to produce it in your favorite colour, and/or use decals on it.
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Which results in a very sexy product, don't you think ?...

Nicolas.
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In orange colour... [8D] (Photo from the Airworld CD-rom manual)
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Airworld redid the moulds once to fit the larger P20, now they need to redo the moulds again..... Jetcats keep growing

P60, 2.8kg dry and 3.7kg with fuel.
http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showt...dentlich-Power.



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Default Maidened my Skyrunner + latest Lambert Kolibri T35 yesterday !

Second flight... with GPS Telemetry activated... Display shows : ...540 km/h...!!! .
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Latest Kolibri T35 = 3,5 kilo thrust (246.000 RPM, acceleration is some 4,5 seconds from idle to full power, instant start, very smooth running engine)

Note the new exhaust cone on the T35. Turbine whistle is much less, and seems overall to be less noisy. Martin Lambert told me Tuesday it adds a bit to the performance too. Well, if the GPS readings of 540 km/h were correct... it's enough for me for the time being !

For those who have one : the CG setting as per the manual is too much forward / do not use any exponential on elevator or ailerons / always launch the Skyrunner with 5-6 mm "UP" elevator (I have this offset-setting programmed on my retract switch ) / the aileron differentials are spot on

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Is vogelsang the distributor for this in the US? Or do we order direct from air world?
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Second flight... with GPS Telemetry activated... Display shows : ...540 km/h...!!! .
On the German forums, it was commented that the Robbe F1675 GPS sensor sometimes produces inaccurate readings.
After checking the log data file, and omitting some of the "519" and "540" numbers in the spreadsheets, we could conclude with more certainty that the true Vmax is in the region of 300-320 km/h with the Lambert Kolibri T35 (approx 200 MPH). Which is, given the rather small size of the plane, still very impressive in the air.

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Originally Posted by SpiderJets View Post
On the German forums, it was commented that the Robbe F1675 GPS sensor sometimes produces inaccurate readings.
After checking the log data file, and omitting some of the "519" and "540" numbers in the spreadsheets, we could conclude with more certainty that the true Vmax is in the region of 300-320 km/h with the Lambert Kolibri T35 (approx 200 MPH). Which is, given the rather small size of the plane, still very impressive in the air.

Nicolas.
Hello I have the red Skyrunner . I am just getting redy to install . What is the recommended servo .....torq oz/inches.....nd how are the. servos mounted ? They look to be just glued in with no screws . I have read that one chap sanded a servo down in order to fit the wing .
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I want one of these! Anyone have ideas on the rudder and brakes thing to make it flyable at an AMA field? I would prefer to do neither, not sure if the AMA has rules on turbines that have no landing gear?
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I did install the Futaba S9650 servos in the wings.
In my opinion, the best way to do this, is NOT to attach the servos to the servo bay hatches (as we usually do), but to the top skin of the wing instead.
In order to prevent "flexing" of the wing skin (causing inaccurate controls) I did laminate an extra layer of carbon fiber + epoxy resin where I was supposed to glue the servo in the servo bay. (This fiberglassed area was slightly larger than the size of the servo hatch.)
The hatch itself, because there is nothing attached to it, is simply held in place with simple transparant tape all around (= no screws,...).
The servo S9650 has vertical and horizontal mounting brackets as a standard, so it is very simple to mount them flat against the inner (top) wing skin.
To be honest, I did glue the servos permanently to the extra carbon fibre layer with a mix of epoxy resin and milled glass fiber all over the the flat plastic mounting brackets of the servo.
I did first check all mechanical settings + programming settings of course, and did tack glue the servo in place with a drop of ZAP.
Once I was totally satisfied, I did apply the epoxy resin mix over the plastic brackets to secure the install permanently.

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