Wolfgang Klühr practising for JetPower 2010
09-12-2010, 02:29 AM
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Wolfgang Klühr practising for JetPower 2010
09-12-2010, 05:49 AM
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The only jet I ever managed to fly close to that, was the large Skymaster Viperjet. He probably has gyros on every surface, plus one on each hand
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09-12-2010, 01:08 PM
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RE: Wolfgang Klühr practising for JetPower 2010
G-day!
It definitely is the new Skygate-Collection L-39. And Wolfgang is probably flying Stephan Völkers Hawk in the first part of the video. They two have teamed-up quite some time ago. Of 8 JWMs they both won 6 titles in the individual class. Don't forget: That are training flights to get used to the flying envelope of the aircrafts. And both Stephan and Wolfgang know how to fly a jet scale-like.
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It definitely is the new Skygate-Collection L-39. And Wolfgang is probably flying Stephan Völkers Hawk in the first part of the video. They two have teamed-up quite some time ago. Of 8 JWMs they both won 6 titles in the individual class. Don't forget: That are training flights to get used to the flying envelope of the aircrafts. And both Stephan and Wolfgang know how to fly a jet scale-like.
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09-12-2010, 04:25 PM
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RE: Wolfgang Klühr practising for JetPower 2010
Cant see it either because the original person to upload it has marked it as private so its not publicly available.
09-12-2010, 04:30 PM
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RE: Wolfgang Klühr practising for JetPower 2010
Wolfgang Kluhr.
Still a flying legend in my eyes. Thats some damn fine flying there. When some one makes great flying like that look so easy you just know they are good.
You can have all the gyros in the world and they still dont fly the model for you as smoothly as I saw in that video, and I have yet to see one that will land a scale jet as well as Wolfgang.
I will try to make time to watch him fly next week, as I am sure it will be worth it.
Regards Al
Still a flying legend in my eyes. Thats some damn fine flying there. When some one makes great flying like that look so easy you just know they are good.
You can have all the gyros in the world and they still dont fly the model for you as smoothly as I saw in that video, and I have yet to see one that will land a scale jet as well as Wolfgang.
I will try to make time to watch him fly next week, as I am sure it will be worth it.
Regards Al
09-25-2010, 01:36 AM
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RE: Wolfgang Klühr practising for JetPower 2010
ORIGINAL: FalconWings
where's the video at? care to share?
where's the video at? care to share?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OJEZo9eAGA
Enjoy!
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09-25-2010, 02:57 AM
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These new big jets are starting to look ridiculous they are just too light for their size, they perform nothing like real jets.
09-25-2010, 05:55 AM
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I completely agree with you Mick.
They look like big foamies and fly nothing like scale.
Today, people are so obsessed with scale detail down to the last rivet, but completely decide to look away from what IMO is one of the most important aspects, scale flying and handling.
I am far more impressed with a pilot handling a 1/5,5 Hawk at 15 kg dry than a 1/3,5 foamie forced just under 20 kg to be able to compete in say JWM. The scale weight of such a plane should probably be in the +-40 kg range at least.
I really wonder when the therm "scale weight" is going to be added to the list.
If I were a judge in a scale competition, I would give planes that handles like foamis zero points for the flying part. I also wonder how judges at JWM or simillar events can look away from this fact, when it's all about scale.
The massive big F-16 at jetpower was said to be well under 20kg and 160 powered. My 200SX powered 1/6 SM F-16 which is about half the size of the foamie weighs in at 19,5 kg dry + 6 liters of fuel and 1,5 liters of smoke makes the max weight just under 25 kg. Flyes great and very scale, but off course is no foamie glider.
They look like big foamies and fly nothing like scale.
Today, people are so obsessed with scale detail down to the last rivet, but completely decide to look away from what IMO is one of the most important aspects, scale flying and handling.
I am far more impressed with a pilot handling a 1/5,5 Hawk at 15 kg dry than a 1/3,5 foamie forced just under 20 kg to be able to compete in say JWM. The scale weight of such a plane should probably be in the +-40 kg range at least.
I really wonder when the therm "scale weight" is going to be added to the list.
If I were a judge in a scale competition, I would give planes that handles like foamis zero points for the flying part. I also wonder how judges at JWM or simillar events can look away from this fact, when it's all about scale.
The massive big F-16 at jetpower was said to be well under 20kg and 160 powered. My 200SX powered 1/6 SM F-16 which is about half the size of the foamie weighs in at 19,5 kg dry + 6 liters of fuel and 1,5 liters of smoke makes the max weight just under 25 kg. Flyes great and very scale, but off course is no foamie glider.
09-25-2010, 07:22 AM
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RE: Wolfgang Klühr practising for JetPower 2010
HallO!
Well, first of all: I have watched the vid a couple of times. But I can not see any sign of stall. I have talked to Stephan about his new Albatros and he said, he couldn't get it to stall. But I have to agree: He nows his stuff, even if it didn't look as perfect as his Hawk-flying.
I have seen the full-size Albatros during Jetpower and Ali's flight just after it. I would not say, that Ali's big Tomahawk L-39 looked slow, compared to the full-size. Yes, he can fly it extremely slow, if he wants. That is the nice thing with our models. Most of us here in germany do fly from rather short grass-strips. And it is fine if you can take-off and land your jets on the local strip. People don't bother to fly non-scale aerobatic manouvers, ever seen a T-33 doing a straight and slow roll? Probably not, but who cares?
If you see the right guys flying the big light scale-jets in a scale manner, you can hardly say if it is a model or a full-scale one.
BR,
David
Well, first of all: I have watched the vid a couple of times. But I can not see any sign of stall. I have talked to Stephan about his new Albatros and he said, he couldn't get it to stall. But I have to agree: He nows his stuff, even if it didn't look as perfect as his Hawk-flying.
I have seen the full-size Albatros during Jetpower and Ali's flight just after it. I would not say, that Ali's big Tomahawk L-39 looked slow, compared to the full-size. Yes, he can fly it extremely slow, if he wants. That is the nice thing with our models. Most of us here in germany do fly from rather short grass-strips. And it is fine if you can take-off and land your jets on the local strip. People don't bother to fly non-scale aerobatic manouvers, ever seen a T-33 doing a straight and slow roll? Probably not, but who cares?
If you see the right guys flying the big light scale-jets in a scale manner, you can hardly say if it is a model or a full-scale one.
BR,
David
