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:D paved 400 ft. runway. falcon 120 or boomerang?? kintech power.

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Boomerang Sprint is the shortest landing of all the Boomers, I had an Elan and have flown the XL at our grass site and the Sprint lands very short, the Flacon will float on if you don't modify the flaps to get 90deg movement and crow braking on the ailerons, then you can land it slower, but the Sprint still lands shorter, and its an easy flying first jet in its standard form, the Falcon needs work to get it ready and suitable for a turbine install.

My Sprint has a JetsMunt 90 in it, lots of thrust to play with, about the same as the Kingtech if I remember correctly.

Mike

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Also a PST reaction will land there.

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Our Club field is paved and 400 ft long. I learned on a Boomrang XL at this field with no problem at all. Currently flying a Flash there and always have lots of pavement to spare. I can't imagine either plane you mentioned being a problem. I can tell you from experience that the Boomerang will take better care of you than the Falcon though.

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Hi,
We fly off of 30' x 300' of paved runway, we do have 30' of smooth grass runoff on each side and 100' of runoff at each end.
We have been sucessful with all of the following: Boomerang XL, Baby Boomerang, Reaction ARF, Kangaroo, Avonds F-15.
Good luck,
John

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:D:) thanks for simple suggestions. were do i go to look at a boomerang?? thanks a bunch for your time..:D;):)

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http://www.boomerangjets.com/us/home.htm

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Shuies new jet would land short. I've seen that thing land in like 50 feet.

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Andy,
Go Boomerang! If you buy the Falcon 120...it will HAVE to have a JetJoe for full effect!

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Altecare is having a 10% off sale on everything this week, including boomerang jets!! I've been needing a good everyday jet and have been considering getting a sprint myself. Check it out www.altecarerc.com

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I use Jet Joes to dry my laundry. They work fabulous for that.

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Andrew,
If you mean the Tuano, it has massive flaps on it.. That allows it to take off and land in some very short distances..
Not to mention a low drag airframe and really nice low speed flight characterstics.. :D

Rob

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:D what is a shuie jet??[X(]

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David Shulman's Tuano jet.

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There is a general misunderstanding between flaps and air brakes and flaps which act as airbrakes, flaps are great for floating an aircraft in, but not so good for short field landings unless you can lower them sufficiently to act as an airbrake as well, anything up to about 45degs will float an airframe, but does not bring the aircraft down to a short landing just a lower speed and lots of float, beyond 45deg and especially if you can get 90degs the lift distribution over the wing is disturbed and the aircraft will have a greater rate of decent, now the lift is reduced the stall speed becomes critical, with the deployment of up aileron this gives washout to the wing and the wing has a lessor tendency to tip stall, so flaps down to 90degs and up aileron will give a good rate of decent and a reduction in forward speed with less tendancy to tip stall all the things needed for a short landing especially if you have trees to on finals, on all the turbines I have flown, lowering the flaps to approx 45degs on the downwing lets me judge the speed and rate of decent to turn onto the base leg, just before the final turn onto approuch full flap (90deg) and up aileron brings the rate of decent up and the length of landing approuch and touch down is controlled with the throttle, anyway that's how I do it, I am sure others will have other ways of landing, but I fly from a very short rough grass field and need to land slow and short, the mown area is 100ft x 20ft and frequented by organic lawnmowers. LOL

In case there is any confusion short landings is the total distance needed to bring the aircraft to a stop from its point of turning finals, not its roll out distance on the runway.

Mike

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKknCbeSGDk

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My nerves would not let me land like that, I'm too old and concience of my wallet. LOL

Mike

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It's about knowing the envelope of the plane and trusting it. Oh well, easier said....

Barry

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Damn that thing flies sweet...
Love that short landing..

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Who kits the Tuano?

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Pirroti models out of europe do them...
Drop me a PM if you want detailed specs...

Rob

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rapptor,

I went with a sprint/P-80 combo for my first jet and haven't regretted it. It lands short and takes off pretty quick. With the flaps down it will slow down nicely. I fly off a 400X50 asphault runway and it's plenty for the sprint. haven't tried grass with it yet,but I'm sure it would do great there too. Don't know much about the Falcon 120 but if it's not designed for a Turbine it will take a lot to convert it I'm sure. You're much better off going with a proven airframe than trying to save a few bucks and always wondering if it's good enough!! This is just my opinion so take it for what it's worth. A friend of mine has a Falcon that he was going to convert but decided it was just too much work to convert it properly.

chris

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:D thanks for info .. i like the sprint also. what does it weigh? kingtech enough??

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Mine weighs 18 pounds dry and my engine is a 2003 P-80 with 18 or 19 pounds of thrust. It is 25 pounds at takeoff and it has no problem with the weight. The Kingtech is 18 pounds thrust so it should be comparible to mine. Here is a video of mine and you can see how well it flies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGX9nOD12dM

Chris

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Rapptor,

Please allow my two cents worth. We spend our winters in Arizona and with the long runways there I have a ball with my 6 year old Kingcat. However; our summers are spent here in Pocatello, Idaho. 4800 asl and a 300 foot runway. Some years ago I built a Baby Boomer (P-60) and flew it until it simply wore out. 28 turbine hours and @ 320 flights. The last two years I've flown a Sprint with a P-80. Plenty of power, lands slow and short, and easily takes off in grass.

You won't be unhappy with a Sprint.

Chris