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chrigui 09-21-2011 10:12 PM

Jet Cat 120 repair
 
I received old Jetcat 120 from friend to test

i found this problem and i'm fixing the problem

stick tube broken

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...6_783434_n.jpg

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egv in not good condition

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internal exaust cone hole broken

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replace stick

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laser stick soldering

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cleaning CC

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Internal cone repair

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New EGV

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re-balance

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JP-1 09-22-2011 03:08 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
Chrigui,

Nice work, I guess this J.C. 120 has a lot of hours on it?

Xairflyer 09-22-2011 03:26 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
This is a good indication of what happens if you have a needle or vap tube problem the others have to work harder to produce the rpm the ECU wants and so run a lot hotter in the CC, causing the cracking of the NGV.

Chrigui, what did you use to clean the CC

chrigui 09-22-2011 03:45 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
the original egv was reduced in diameter (i dont know who has done the work... ) and the thickness was only 0,25 mm
maybe to fit in the non original flange stick support
with high temp the egv cracked..also i found the gap between turbine wheel and egv was over 0,6mm in radius
(maybe modified to eliminate turbine touching egv)
i know that engine was buyed by ebay in holland...
i clean with fine sand and washed....alternative is ultrasound when carbon deposits are less than in the photo

basimpsn 09-22-2011 04:05 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
Im very impress the NGV guide vanes are still intact even with a bad CC. We need a RCUNIVERSE home turbine repair Forum :D.

chrigui 09-22-2011 04:17 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
the ngv blade are intact because they are thicker

ps..sorry for may bad english..[:o][:o]

madmodelman 09-22-2011 04:27 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
Your english is fine! ;)

Vincent 09-22-2011 04:43 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
Ciao Chris...buon lavoro!!! ;)
Vin...

chrigui 09-22-2011 05:04 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
ciao vincent.... grazie ...tutto bene?? come stai?

Xairflyer 09-22-2011 05:29 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 


ORIGINAL: basimpsn

Im very impress the NGV guide vanes are still intact even with a bad CC. We need a RCUNIVERSE home turbine repair Forum :D.
I started this thread [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=9049882]DIY Turbine stripdown & Maintenance[/link] some time back, as a database to other threads with similar stuff, would be nice for it to develop further as there is a lot if interest in DIY turbine work.

Chrigui maybe you will post a link to this thread on it as well.

basimpsn 09-22-2011 06:18 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
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(DIY Turbine stripdown & Maintenance)

It would be my new addiction;). Chrigui good repair work. I am learning something new since the (HOW ITS MADE) video ;) for example the P-120 uses 6 burner not sure if the new P-120 SE using 12 sticks.

By the way nice work also on machining the new NGV. What material are you using?

chrigui 09-22-2011 06:28 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
the 160 has 12 stick

new 120se i dont know

new p80 has sligtly modified diffuser and different CC design
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...24_80067_n.jpg

basimpsn 09-22-2011 06:36 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
Good information ;) Any info on the NGV

chrigui 09-22-2011 06:41 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
ngv is cast made from Albisser...

RCISFUN 09-22-2011 07:21 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 

ORIGINAL: chrigui

ngv is cast made from Albisser...
What is Albisser???

I always though the hot sections were made for Inconel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inconel

chrigui 09-22-2011 07:26 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
http://www.jetmax.ch/produkte.htm (Dieter Albisser)

Xairflyer 09-22-2011 07:49 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
Chrigui do you know what part number the old p120 compressor is

basimpsn 09-22-2011 08:24 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
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Dieter Albisser
Ok then :eek: because I couldn't find (Albisser) with Google :). Here is my attempt at a 12 injector CC

chrigui 09-22-2011 10:10 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
Garrett T3 446279-0001
69,00 mm diametro maggiore
51,65mm diametro minore
6,25 mm diametro albero
Trim 56
12 palette (6+6)

Undecided 09-22-2011 03:06 PM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
Hello basimpsn


What material did you use to make your injector needles, where did you purchase from?

Thanks, Neal

chrigui 09-25-2011 09:50 PM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
you can use brass tube or siringe needle

chrigui 09-26-2011 06:16 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
just tested the engine

120.000 rpm 672°c egt

Felix Barrao 09-26-2011 09:09 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
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Good work, chirigui.

I have repaired this JC 120SE ( 6 sticks ). The NGV was in very bad condition. I have used a cast NGV like you, but this is a chinese one. It´s casted in inconel 713C, very very dificult to machine.

Regards.
Félix

chrigui 09-26-2011 09:42 PM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
no problem to machine my egv.. you must to use right tools..

Felix Barrao 09-27-2011 12:02 AM

RE: Jet Cat 120 repair
 
I think Albisser NGV are not inconel, usually NGV are made from high grade SS. ( ANC 5B), and they are fairly easy to machine ( I havve machined several) . The supplier told me that this was Inconel 713 C, and actually is not easy to machine.

Regards.
Félix


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