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bigplumbs 01-22-2012 04:27 AM

Flat Clear
 
I have a couple of planes that are rather shiny. I read a lot about people painting such planes with 'Flat Clear'. Can any of you please advise what this actually is and perhaps where to buy this in the UK

Thanks

Deno

Pinnacle Aviation 01-22-2012 04:37 AM

RE: Flat Clear
 
Hi deno, are you near Hertfordshire

Pm me

FILE IFR 01-22-2012 05:47 AM

RE: Flat Clear
 
I don't know where or if it's in the UK, but in the States, PPG Paints offers 'Flexed-N-Flat' for flat clear finish on top of the color.

CraigG 01-22-2012 05:50 AM

RE: Flat Clear
 
"Flex N Flat" is a PPG product that dries flat. I've used it successfully on several jets but I don't know if it's available in the UK. Here's a description:
http://www.fycracing.com/graphite03/...17_DCU2060.pdf

Another option for your shiny jets is to rub them down with 0000 steel wool until they are completely dull. Then use a fine automotive finish or "swirll remover" polish and by hand, buff them back to whatever level of dullness you like. I would start with a small area on the fueslage bottom and experiment to see what works best.

Craig

jetster81 01-22-2012 06:07 AM

RE: Flat Clear
 
Hey Deno, 'flat-clear' is an american expression for matt varnish. I use matt clear acrylic varnish that can be bought at B&Q etc and not expensive, Valspar is a good one, it can be carefully brushed on,leave until completely dry and then flatted back with 1200 grit and/or a rub over with Farecla number one rubbing compound till you have the desired effect . works for me, hope that helps. Tips, try it on an unseen part first and the more you put on the more you have to rub off.

bigplumbs 01-22-2012 06:08 AM

RE: Flat Clear
 
Thanks for the input guys

Jack Diaz 01-22-2012 06:19 AM

RE: Flat Clear
 
The best flat clear I have used is "SIKKENS Autoclear Mat".
It is produced by Akzo Nobel in the Netherlands.
For our use, once mixed with the catalyst as per instructions, you dilute it with an equal amount of Sikkens Thiner Slow.
Finish is not only perfect, but can not be removed with anything.

Jack

Square Nozzle 01-22-2012 06:44 AM

RE: Flat Clear
 
From experience gained using "Flexed and Flat" on my F-22, don't spray on heavy wet coats. Apply almost dry. If you spray it to wet the flattening agent tends to settle away from the surface and you end up with a sorta glossy finish.

CraigG 01-22-2012 07:10 AM

RE: Flat Clear
 


ORIGINAL: Square Nozzle

From experienced gained using ''Flexed and Flat'' on my F-22, don't spray on heavy wet coats. Apply almost dry. If you spray it to wet the flattening agent tends to settle away from the surface and you end up with a sorta glossy finish.
Very true John. Best way is to add extra reducer and then just 2 or 3 very light coats.

Xairflyer 01-22-2012 12:39 PM

RE: Flat Clear
 
Any of the normal model paints will do like solarlac or flair matt or satin fuel proofers or the RC colour paints Perkins supply.
Also the old reliable tufcote which has been around for years.

I think a Satin finish tends to be the best unless you really want it matt.

Xairflyer 01-22-2012 12:41 PM

RE: Flat Clear
 
Just thinking if you want to just remove the gloss rub it all over with a grey scotchbrite you will have to do that anyway before you paint.

Levi Wags 01-23-2012 10:46 PM

RE: Flat Clear
 


ORIGINAL: Deno48

I have a couple of planes that are rather shiny. I read a lot about people painting such planes with 'Flat Clear'. Can any of you please advise what this actually is and perhaps where to buy this in the UK

Thanks

Deno
Hey Deno,

Not sure on product names or suppliers in your area but go for either a automotive acrylic or a two pack product. Both products you add a flattening agent to get the required finish and both are non yellowing. Over time an oil based clear will yellow so steer clear of that. As previous posts have mentioned just dust on light coats and build up the coating. I have the two pack flattened on my mig and its bullet proof in terms of durability and is flat as.

Kind Regards
Levi

bigplumbs 01-24-2012 12:30 AM

RE: Flat Clear
 
Many thanks for all your help

Deno


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