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essyou35 03-04-2013 08:53 AM

Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
Based on my limited experience here are some types I have noticed. These can apply to all aspects of RC but the jet community, and the cost thereof, create a unique dynamic. I havent captured all types but just the ones that stick out to me. Not intended to insult anyone but just something to think about how you might come off to others. Most of the people I have met outside this forum are just great, but there are some like below and to me they stick out and are hard for me to get over. As I mention below, about 3/4 of the jet community I have met are "cool guy".


Trainer Guy: This is the guy that only flies trainer type jets. He doesn’t fly them real well either, and has some crashes, and rarely flies at that. However, he has a lot to say about how others fly, follow rules, land, and build. This is the guy who usually pulls his trainer out to give me "advice" on how to land my scale jet, and usually biffs the landing during the "demo".

My favorite is when he says "let me show you how to PROPERLY start your jet" because I do it wrong of course, and he proceeds to burn the tail off his boomerang/shockjet/mach jet during the "demo". He'll usually preach about how my flying is dangerous to the hobby as well.


Non Flyer guy: This guy may have lots of jets, but rarely flies. He has a lot to say about how others flies, constantly talks smack about how many jets he has, how nice his stuff is, how bad my stuff is. But never flies it. He's scared. When he does fly, he usually turns into trainer guy above, the main difference being he actually owns nice jets, that he doesn’t fly. This is the guy that shows up to a jet rally and sets up his jet, doesn’t fly it, but when the rally is over he will gladly report the 50 flights he got on his foamies, that he flew amongst the multi-thousand dollar jets. However, he will pretend they were all turbine flights. He will also claim "he never crashes" only because he never flies. He has a long list of everone elses mishaps that he will gladly point out to you when his skills are questioned. Also, if you get the same jet as him, he will gladly point out how bad of shape your 5 year old jet with 400 flights on it is, and how nice his jet is (that never flies) because he is "that good". Oh when and when he does fly, he usually has someone else fly his jets, he may take a couple circuits but hands the xmitter over for landing.
See Non Jet Guy below.

NASA Guy: This guy knows everything. He spent $1000 on a private pilots license and this gives him all the skills of an aeronautical engineer. He may know some basic highschool math and will usually start his scientific arguments off with F=mA. He knows nothing of calculus, differential equations, or even basic aerodynamics for that fact but his post or conversations wont admit that. He knows it all. This type also usually never flies. But when he does fly, he wants to prove to you that a tail wind cant cause a stall (because we all know that airspeed cant go negative in a strong tail wind), and he usually ends up spiraling in, of course due to "radio issues". Its ok to be NASA guy if you have the background to support it. But if you dont know what differential equations are and how to apply them, forget it.

Know it all guy: This guy is like NASA guy, but doesnt really think about it scientifically. This is more along the lines of he gives advice about a Jet Cats but doesnt own one. This guy states with authority the answers to questions, about something he has no experience with. For example, stating that jet cats suck because (list reasons here), though he has never owned one. Someone who conjectures about how something "might work" does not fall into this category, especially when trying to answer an unanswered question.


Ego Guy: This guy may fly real well, and fly a lot at that. He preaches safety and goes over the same rules with you every time you see him. He talks about how people threaten the hobby with inexperience and stupid actions. His crashes are rare, but he does crash. However, never bring up that point that his own crashes also put this hobby at risk. He could easily crash into a hangar/house as much as I can, but ignore that. His crashes don’t count, what does count is the fact the everyone else is the real danger to our hobby,field whatever.

Non Jet Guy (poser): This guy don’t even own jets, he may of got a waiver from flying "Non Flyer Guy's" trainer jets or back from the day you could get a waiver flying a souped up slow stick. But he don’t actually own any jets himself. He never flies because he cant. He'll show up at rallies and he thinks he is allowed in the pits despite not registering to fly because has no jets, but really he is a "jet guy". Hes online giving advice, asking questions, and in a fantasy world. He'll never own one because he has no formal education and won’t ever have a real job, he'll need his bread winning wife or mommy to buy him a jet, if it ever happens.


Old Fart guy: This guy is ancient and looks like he has a jet somewhere the sun don't shine. He wants nothing to do with me and if I ask him a question he doesn’t listen but rather is hoping I drop dead in front of his eyes. He's been flying jets long before I was born. He was good at one time, in some ways still is, but like many old guys he losing it, and we all will get there. Don’t approach this guy for help, a waiver, leave him to his cronies and stay out of his way. I will never be part of his circle, and there is little difference between me and a toddler wearing diapers.


Outcast guy: This guy is out casted by the jet community. He bought a scale jet instead of a trainer, and the fact he flew it successful to get a waiver is just not acceptable. He fights against injustice at the field and online, and no matter how good he is he really "sucks". This guy is a danger to our hobby because he is violating the traditional thinking you need to have a slow stick with a turbine on it to start out with. He is also not afraid to stick it to trainer, NASA, and Ego guy. Leave old fart guy alone though, he might shoot you. You'll see him posting online pointing out how crappy getting into turbines can be.


Cool Guy: This guy is cool. Hes usually not even online, but there are some are out there on RCU. He flies well, and is always willing to help. He may even scratch build some jets. Hes open to new ideas and doesn’t think so traditional. Its this type of guy we should all strive to be like. He likes my setup no matter what it is. Even if I need some more practice he will compliment me. I would say this type represents at least 3/4 of the jet community, but you have to get out to rallys to really see it. You wont see it online. It also hard to see if when you have minority other types who really stick out.


PS: My favorite is trainer guy. Its just such good entertainment.



Dieselman1220 03-04-2013 09:21 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
Everybody here will consider them self the "cool guy"
:D

DiscoWings 03-04-2013 09:23 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
Well by your "titles" I would be an "outcast" guy who gets into confrontations with the "ego" guy.

STICK IT TO THE MAN!:)

husafreak 03-04-2013 09:44 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
I read your letter and now I have a headache. Oh well, may you forever fly with cool guys ;)

sirrom 03-04-2013 09:58 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
You forgot a category:

AS*H*&^E guy:
He is the guy that shows up at jet events and the local field with his jets and thinks he is above everyone else that doesn't fly a jet or his caliber of jets. He won't answer a question from someone interested in his jet(s) or someone interested in getting into the hobby. He is the guy that says, "If you have to ask how much, you can't afford it." He is also the guy who expects everyone at his local field to land for him when he fires up his jet because they should respect the price of what he has, although someone else has a 40% aerobatic plane worth just as much as his Jet. He is the one who crashes but it is ALWAYS equipment failure.

Patrick

grbaker 03-04-2013 10:01 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
You left one off:
Old Fart Jet guy: This guy has been flying jets for 10 or more years and has seen a lot of Trainer guys, Non Flyer guys, Nasa guys, Ego guys, non-jet guys, old fart guys, outcast guys and even some of the cool guys come and go. Some quicker than others.

Actually, there are only 2 types of jet pilots…………………………hot shot pilots and pudknockers ;)

tp777fo 03-04-2013 10:15 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
I vote for Old Fart Jet Guy1

FlyinTiger 03-04-2013 10:18 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
Is "Outcast Guy" forever outcast or will they eventually be accepted by the community and have a chance at "Cool Guy?"

Also, where does a female jet pilot that is pretty darn good fall in the list? Might piss some people off, especially if she didn't start with a "trainer jet" either...LOL.

This outa be entertaining...my adventure into the RC turbine world is just beginning. :D

essyou35 03-04-2013 10:21 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
I see this trait in actually some of the other types, you can have a trainer guy that acts this way for example.
But yes I konw exactly what you mean.


ORIGINAL: sirrom

You forgot a category:

AS*H*&^E guy:
He is the guy that shows up at jet events and the local field with his jets and thinks he is above everyone else that doesn't fly a jet or his caliber of jets. He won't answer a question from someone interested in his jet(s) or someone interested in getting into the hobby. He is the guy that says, ''If you have to ask how much, you can't afford it.'' He is also the guy who expects everyone at his local field to land for him when he fires up his jet because they should respect the price of what he has, although someone else has a 40% aerobatic plane worth just as much as his Jet. He is the one who crashes but it is ALWAYS equipment failure.

Patrick

essyou35 03-04-2013 10:24 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
It depends on what she looks like :D If she is decent and young, it dont matter what or how she flies she will be the #1 jet pilot. Of course until my wife gets her waiver this year... then my wife will be #1.

I think outcase guy can be accepted but he has to start laying low. Or just get older, I find many outcast guys are 30ish. Given the cost of jets, you're not supposed to be able to afford these until you are 50ish apparently. Seems like the average age is in the late 40s and mid 50s. I think that plays a role when some young "hot shot" proves he can do it his own way.


ORIGINAL: FlyinTiger

Is ''Outcast Guy'' forever outcast or will they eventually be accepted by the community and have a chance at ''Cool Guy?''

Also, where does a female jet pilot that is pretty darn good fall in the list? Might piss some people off, especially if she didn't start with a ''trainer jet'' either...LOL.

This outa be entertaining...my adventure into the RC turbine world is just beginning. :D

3dean 03-04-2013 10:28 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
wow !!!! thank god im cool :-))

Meesh 03-04-2013 11:30 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
essyou35

This is by far the BEST post you have ever made.

Well done!

Bob

essyou35 03-04-2013 11:38 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
*bow.


ORIGINAL: Meesh

essyou35

This is by far the BEST post you have ever made.

Well done!

Bob

stevekott 03-04-2013 11:52 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
How about the

Just wanna have fun guy: Loves the smell of burning kero. Gets an adrenaline rush with a smooth landing or a fast pass. Loves the techgnology and likes hanging out with a bunch of interesting cool guys that are just as crazy as he is. He could care less about egos, intellectual jousting or all the other BS associated with a lot of the types above. He just wants to play with some cool toys http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...ular_smile.gif

bcovish 03-04-2013 11:59 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 

ORIGINAL: grbaker

You left one off:
Old Fart Jet guy: This guy has been flying jets for 10 or more years and has seen a lot of Trainer guys, Non Flyer guys, Nasa guys, Ego guys, non-jet guys, old fart guys, outcast guys and even some of the cool guys come and go. Some quicker than others.

Actually, there are only 2 types of jet pilots…………………………hot shot pilots and pudknockers ;)

Watch it there Gary, you kinda hit close to home, mine:). The other day I farted and nothing but dust came

AMTdude 03-04-2013 11:59 AM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
I'm a stealth guy - i get the job done and nobody knows i was there. :-)

SDCrashmaster 03-04-2013 12:15 PM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
How 'bout "Awesome Guy"
He has the baddassest jets on the planet and fly's the crap out of 'em. And he fly's the crap outta anybody and everybody else's stuff too.
Every landing is like "butta", even if maidening a cinder block. He is a know-it-all and will expound IF asked.
He's a delight to hang with before, during and after a long day at an event. He doesn't have enough time to even think about having an ego. He is just down-to-earth, helpful and simply "awesome".

Or is that just "cool guy" ?

SDCrashmaster 03-04-2013 12:19 PM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 


ORIGINAL: bcovish


ORIGINAL: grbaker

You left one off:
Old Fart Jet guy: This guy has been flying jets for 10 or more years and has seen a lot of Trainer guys, Non Flyer guys, Nasa guys, Ego guys, non-jet guys, old fart guys, outcast guys and even some of the cool guys come and go. Some quicker than others.

Actually, there are only 2 types of jet pilots…………………………hot shot pilots and pudknockers ;)

Watch it there Gary, you kinda hit close to home, mine:). The other day I farted and nothing but dust came
Far better "nothing but dust" than dust accompanied by other debris.

essyou35 03-04-2013 12:21 PM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
Thats a cool guy. Though I have not met one that think all his stuff is "bassassest", usually they are more humble which makes them cool guys. However I understand if they are amongst friends they make talk some smack like that, but I am talking about how they react to people they do not know.

SDCrashmaster 03-04-2013 12:27 PM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
His jets aren't badass because he told you they were. He isn't even remotely pompous...about anything. When you see his jets, they're simply some of the nicest toys you've ever seen at the flying field.

Nhalyn 03-04-2013 12:38 PM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
That's a cool guy post ! :D:D

Well, I think most of time I try to be a cool guy but can quickly become a "ego guy" if I don't have some people like you to write this sort of post to remember me I'm just a man flying a RC model, thus helping me to come back to a normal sized head, and thus come back to the "cool guy" family...

I hope this is true ! :D

AFTERBURNER1 03-04-2013 01:00 PM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 


ORIGINAL: SDCrashmaster

How 'bout ''Awesome Guy''
He has the baddassest jets on the planet and fly's the crap out of 'em. And he fly's the crap outta anybody and everybody else's stuff too.
Every landing is like ''butta'', even if maidening a cinder block. He is a know-it-all and will expound IF asked.
He's a delight to hang with before, during and after a long day at an event. He doesn't have enough time to even think about having an ego. He is just down-to-earth, helpful and simply ''awesome''.

Or is that just ''cool guy'' ?

That would be ALI......

mario tavarez14 03-04-2013 01:08 PM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
I LOVE THIS POST

RCUser012 03-04-2013 01:08 PM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
Now if we are going to start assigning actual names to these categories, thie thread could get REALLY FUN !!! :D


~V~

ravill 03-04-2013 01:11 PM

RE: Types of Jet guys, which type are you?
 
Essyou35, funny thread you started. If you don't mind, I'm going to fill in some of the folks on RCU in this list. (This should be good http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...irthepot-2.gif ) Please, anyone, feel free to add, ad infinitum. ;)

I even think that some folks have various aspects and hints of other categores. I love it.


Trainer Guy:
Ravill (I HATE that guy)
Scotty
Tam
CarsII

Non Flyer guy:
Felix
Joe C
Ravill
Tam

NASA Guy:
Gordon McDonnell (Is that your last name Gordo?:) )
Wojtek

Know It All Guy:
Dave Searles
Afterburner1
Ravill (this guy is everywhere, except where it counts)
DubD

Ego Guy:
Afterburner1 (minus safety stuff)
Ali
Gorge
Ravill (Don't you dare ask me about MY crashes)

Non Jet Guy (poser):
Ray Ciardella

Old Fart guy:
Bob Viollet
Frank Tiano
Dave Presta

Outcast guy:
James (ie Skippy?)
Essyou35 (I'm guessing here)
Wojtek


Cool Guy:

Joe C

Awesome Guy:
Dan Avila
Scotty
Joe C
DubD
Ali (except ego, as above ;) )


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