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Dieselman1220 11-08-2013 12:01 PM

Real afterburner on model in flight
 
I know this is an EDF but still pretty cool and creative, although a bit dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKuq...e_gdata_player

wojtek 11-08-2013 01:51 PM

that was child's play lol ..


now this gets me excited !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS6LCDmvM5U

I'd Love to see what this got installed on ! :)


Voy

Dr Honda 11-08-2013 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by wojtek (Post 11657955)
that was child's play lol ..


now this gets me excited !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS6LCDmvM5U

I'd Love to see what this got installed on ! :)


Voy


Better have a HUGE model to put it in. Looks like it drank a quart of fuel in about 40 seconds. (lol)

Erik R 11-08-2013 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by wojtek (Post 11657955)
that was child's play lol ..


now this gets me excited !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS6LCDmvM5U

I'd Love to see what this got installed on ! :)


Voy

OMG! Just pulled the motor out of the Firebird. Think it'll fit?

Ron Stahl 11-09-2013 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Erik R (Post 11658210)
OMG! Just pulled the motor out of the Firebird. Think it'll fit?

Erik, if it does. You will takeoff in burner and make one pass throw the flaps out and land as fast as it goes through fuel. Lol.

Harley Condra 11-09-2013 03:14 PM

Read the AMA rules regarding afterburners on turbines.....Just ion case you don't already know.
See rule # 13 http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/510-a.pdf

sysiek 11-10-2013 07:04 AM

The not illegal the rules state at till on of the turbine companies make and develop one with good and safe record so kingtech what you waiting for be the first one and do legal patent so no other will make one .

Dustflyer 11-10-2013 07:35 AM

Or just fly at night!

Not an afterburner but it sure looks like one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH0-d1udXWY

Erik R 11-10-2013 07:45 AM

:-)

sysiek 11-10-2013 08:00 AM

This mean the mast be produced by turbine manufacture like jetcat ,jet central ,kingtech ,bf turbines .before the legal ,after testing and safe to operator .

Dr Honda 11-10-2013 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Harley Condra (Post 11658688)
Read the AMA rules regarding afterburners on turbines.....Just ion case you don't already know.
See rule # 13 http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/510-a.pdf

We know... but it's still cool.


Originally Posted by sysiek (Post 11659039)
The not illegal the rules state at till on of the turbine companies make and develop one with good and safe record so kingtech what you waiting for be the first one and do legal patent so no other will make one .


Ummm.... no.

Read #13. it says.... "Afterburners are prohibited." (as in PERIOD)


The last part that says "are acceptable only if engine manufacturer provided and supported by development testing and user training." are in ref to... Other special controls such as water injection, thrust reversers, variable
nozzles, etc.

Dieselman1220 11-10-2013 08:11 AM

I've seen the vid and a few others of afterburner on turbines, but never seen them fly.
this is the first functioning burner I've seen on a flying model. Thus why I decided to share

Harley Condra 11-10-2013 08:22 AM

As a point of information, some years ago, like in the late nineties, a company in Germany produced a turbine called the "Skypipe". It had a long afterburner exhaust nozzle of divergent/convergant design which contained an afterburner flame holder and fuel supply nozzle(s).
As I recall, it was advertised in RCJI, and sold by one of the European distributors. They were never introduced here for USA sales.
I do not know when they ceased production.
I am sure some of you recall it, and some may have seen it run.

Perhaps Ali could shed more light on these engines.

sysiek 11-10-2013 11:08 AM

Trust me when jet cat have one the will be legally sale and operated the AMA will change the chapter 13.

DiscoWings 11-10-2013 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Dieselman1220 (Post 11657868)
I know this is an EDF but still pretty cool and creative, although a bit dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKuq...e_gdata_player


LOL ghetto turbine... Hobby King is probably going to make one now.

HoundDog 11-10-2013 03:37 PM

I don't think the Russians care much about AMA rule #13. Sometime U must break the Rules to progress in Life. I see club and AMA rules broken every day and more often it's the Club Officers or their cronies.

sysiek 11-10-2013 04:09 PM

I think I should do one afterburner just for fun and development I have old turbine and some time doing the winter let's try .

WALKERS210-RCU 11-10-2013 06:18 PM

I have watch a few Jets fly and they are awesome. My brain don't work quick enough to handle the speed these were reaching, just imagine what an afterburner would do. The look best at night, In the late 60's I was stationed at the Naval Air Station Key West and the Navy had 4 F4 Phantoms sitting on a hot pad 24-7. From time to time they would scramble one or two and my office had a look right down the runway. One night around 8:00 or so something happened and all 4 of the Phantoms were scrambled in full afterburner. Every building on base was shaking and the sight of them lifting off and going vertical was a sight to be see. Would love to see a model do the same thing.

Rols330 11-10-2013 08:19 PM

PST Turbines in Thailand make an Afterburner for military drones....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgPhOzmpREk

Just bring the marshmallows...

sysiek 11-10-2013 09:28 PM

Looks super chip only 1.5 second action just like the pst turbine .

chrigui 11-10-2013 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by Rols330 (Post 11659545)
PST Turbines in Thailand make an Afterburner for military drones....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgPhOzmpREk

Just bring the marshmallows...

maybe to have IR signature for drone/target use

Jgwright 11-11-2013 12:35 AM

Many years ago I saw a plane with a functioning afterburner flying at the Ohain Whittle meeting in Germany. It was a technical feat, but honestly you would struggle to even know it was being used. There was no obvious flame and just a roar when it was ignited and the plane had more power. There are very inefficient and drink fuel. It was developed before the current crop of 180 and 220 turbines, which do the job better and much more efficiently. This subject gets revised from time to time but it is highly unlikely it will be for sale for our model turbines. I do also recall seeing the Skypipe, but never in the air. The foamy EDF with a flame coming out if it is not an afterburner, just a flame that is dangerous fire hazard. It is far from cool.

John

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ruylp7_RLE

Carbon-Customs 11-11-2013 03:18 AM

well thats not a REAL afterburner...

its just a flame behind af hairdryer...


like everything else in EDF its just lame...

chopper52 11-11-2013 05:43 AM

Dumb!!!!!

eddieC 11-11-2013 07:48 AM

Too much talk, not enough flying...

Skip to 3:30-5:00, then 9:30 for flying action.


its just a flame behind af hairdryer...
Now that's funny!....


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