Boring ?
 

Is it just me or do others also feel that this Jet Forum on RCU has got a little boring in recent times. Not sure if it is because many members have left, The new site or perhaps just that there are not so many new products coming along and fewer build threads etc

What do others think ?

Yep! Gone are the days where I couldn't get through the day without a look on RCU.

Informative build threads, sensible discussions and opinions are gone. Seemingly replaced with shills, trolls, egos, bashing, arguing. Very rare that a thread lasts a page before the point is lost..... :(

I know it's no use to complain about it but I still haven't gotten used to the new format. It really has had a major (negative) impact on this site.

I'm on here all the time... but I agree. It seems that a lot of times... I look down the first page, and nothing catches my eye. Then, I look in the for sale section.

Guess I missed the memo..lol. I get LOTS of great info on here, "extremely informative"! IMO

While there is still a lot of great info on here, I agree that the quantity and quality are dropping.
There is no longer the ability to have a good discussion between folks with varying opinions before the egos get in the way and the name calling begins.
Then there are those that try to turn every thread they can into a bashing session of their least favorite manufacturer.

I also agree with the format change, I am on less often just because I do not like the new format. It still has to many bugs and is less friendly for the user. I hope the advertisers take note of this, that may be the only way to motivate the NEEDED fixes.

I'm inclined to agree, I've been on here a few years now and the thing that has changed is ARTF how can you write something topical about screw this servo in here connect it to this control surface here and then have the nerve to call it a BUILD thread! Yipee I've found a different place to put the battery. I have a new model coming from Skymaster sometime this month (they said) I had intented to do a fit out thread but to be honest I think I would struggle to fill a page with something interesting.

Conversly I did try to generate some interest by starting a thread on how I designed and built my DeHavilland DH110 but it didn't generate much in the way of a response from other users so I gave up, I seem to recal saying at the time, when somebody remarked "there was nothing to read" "if you don't support somebody trying, you get what you deserve!"

m

I'm hearing you!

Had to laugh at a 'build' thread in the warbirds forum on unpacking & 'construction' (I think you
had to clip the wheels on) of a micro ARF model!

Screw this servo in? Connect this control surface? Doesn't 'your installer' do that just before you send it to 'your painter'?
Just in time to go to the latest jet meet where you can win model of the meet for your 'efforts'?

Oh.... You must be that weird scratch build guy! Why would you want to do that hard work when you just buy something like everyone else?

Unfortunately the respect for how clever or skilful your modelling skills are seems to be replaced by how much money you have spent on the
latest ARF which is in fashion at that time.:(

Your Sea Vixen didn't generate much response?

At least someone was inspired!

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...00mm_PNF_.html

Be warned, I think you will have to get 'your installer' to clip the wheels on. - John.

Agree. Started the minute the format changed.

RCU is not boring all the time.. Not mentioning the interesting tech content from the guys who post or build something , still chuckle while remembering threads like the "unacceptable practices" , "downwind turn" or the "glascat"

b> P>

HI all, yes their is still too many bugs in this forum, the above is what I see when I edit a add, very distracking.
Rcpete

Jet models are fantastic but far out of reach for the average modeler who in this economy lacks the funds to finance one.

I think the the new format is mainly to blame. It's harder to navigate, too many bugs, and the topics don't catch my eye as easily as the old format.

Bring back the old format! It wasn't broke, why did they change it?

I agree...... I really don't care for the new format either I didn't like it since day one.

I consider myself an average modeler with a family and a modest income. I have had to become creative in obtaining the things that I want. Example, my first jet (Turbinator) I picked up NIB at the Waco Jet Rally this year at a good price. I flipped a Ziroli B-25 and a few swap meet bargains I ran across to buy the gear and all the servos/electronics for it. Then I saved my scratch for a few months waiting (hoping) that Dreamworks would have another Black Friday sale for the turbine and other items I need to complete it. (Thanks Todd)

With that said, I'm not a guy that can just go out and spend 5-6 grand at the drop of the hat, and have a plane in the air in a month. But with the patience and determination that I have learned from building from sticks for the past few years, I can focus on the goal that I have, and have one in the air in 6-8 months.

I would like to see more build threads…even if they are just "assemble" threads. Fun to see how others do their installs.

I like the new format. At least it works.

People are not building as much...new sales are at an all time low. Established models still sell, but doing a build on an existing design makes little sense.
The real reason the forum is down on posts is the hobby is in free fall, certainly in England. The Internet has much to do with our countries mess, business reducing, prices and hence margins below a break even figure. Everyone thinks things should cost less, that's not possible, our hobby is the cheapest its ever been, if you want it to get better, people need to get real and accept prices increasing.If you don't there will be a tiny choice of product, which will suit the keyboard flyer who started this...

Too many alpha males in this forum. Almost every thread ends in a smart ass comment. :rolleyes:

Like the one above your post I would suggest

I don't see that the hobby is in free fall at all. In the UK some companies in this market are doing very well indeed, Building a warehouse to double the size of their operation (That should be open just after Christmas) and creating (at last count) over 25 new jobs in the UK. I would call that on the up not free fall

Prices aren't going anywhere but down.

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I regret that some are arrogant enough to quibble over the adjectives "build" vs "install" and denigrate those who do the latter. Get over yourselves please. One needn't be a scratch builder to be a "real" modeler, just as enjoying or -God forbid - learning something from an install thread doesn't make a modeler somehow less worthy.

don't know Dave Wilshere, but seeing as how he's a prominent retailer, id think one would argue with him regarding the state of the hobby in the UK at ones peril. Still, I think his cheap shot at the OP was completely uncalled for.

It's been two years since I decided to build my own scratch built turbine jet model. I have five flights on it before the weather turned cold here in the north east PA area. It flies real well and I was awarded the "Pilots Choice" at the last jet rally I attented. When you feel like a lot of others on here, you take control and do something about it, instead of complaining about it. I saved almost $3,000.00 by making my own turbine jet. If you have been flying at least ten years and don't know what makes an airplane fly, you might as well turn off your transmitter and play video games on the computer. I have been flying model airplanes for 55 years and I just made my first fiberglass model. I won't BORE anyone with the details, but if you are interested, then here is what to look for: 1950's Navy Jet thread. Enjoy.....

Larry

You noticed it too?

I agree with the "alpha male" comment...

In my opinion, the issue has to do mostly with the forum contents than with the new format, actually, forum discussion quality started to decline way before the new format was put in place. Yes the economy is bad, there might be less new products, still no explanation for irrelevant topics, discussions and uncalled for comments.I posted a comment on a thread over two years ago on an unrelated topic, but it does apply to this one perfectly, it was:

"There are very experienced people on this forum who can contribute a lot to the growth of the newcomers, and as time goes by, there is less and less contributions on their part, I feel that's because some of the newbies use the forum as their "facebook" and post everything they do and comes to mind during the day that has no relevance to the continuous development of the forum, you do not see the experts who can teach us do this!, that's not what the forum is for and I believe may be the reason for less and less postings from those we can learn a lot from, it may be becoming the environment they do not want to be a part of"

I wonder how the contributions of the top 3 members with the most posts in the last 36 months relate to the perception of the forum today...

Force field on...

DW has one small shop in the UK so I will leave it to you to decide if he is 'prominent' or not

Small...Dennis you are so funny.

dennis , whos dennis :-)

I totally agree with Mr. Wilshere opinion as same applies to Spain model market. And as to RC Universe Jet forum also happens to Spanish most popular forum.

From my point of view...... it is just statistics, idiot!.

It is very easy:

1.- If fewer people may get to R/C in general and jets in particular, fewer and fewer threads will be started.
2.- If more people are unable to keep with the hobby, fewer and fewer threads will be started and even continued.
3.- If there are fewer meodelers, manufacturers will produce fewer new models to build and comment.

And all this has nothing to do with some distributors getting bigger premises and more employees as for example, in my country, of 5 great distributors only 2 remain and although it is possible they might get better sales from less competence -thus needing more warehouse space and more people working- we have lost R/C brands like OS Engines and Kyosho that we now may only purchase from other European countries but not in Spanish model shops.

That is crisis and R/C market free falling!.

post #2 said it all in a nut shell and its that way in almost every forum you get into.no respect for the hobby or each other.

I would like to see the jet forum broken down into sub categories, everything gets lost in the jumble. I'd like to see a designer, scratch build and ARF categories, to much here that I don't want to see, and maybe the jet section needs it's own club house for stuff like this! I think that would help also to disperse the crowd if you will and I could stop by and see exactly what I want to see.

Luke

How about a sub category for "whiners". :eek:

I tactfully added that category in the form of the "club house".

If you are bored, check this out: http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showt...sbauer-Richter. This should get very interesting pretty soon. This guy is building a BD-5, scale 1:1!!!!

Regards, Bart.

Lol Dennis, You've obviously never been to see Dave in his modern warehouse.
How many multistore model jet shop companies are there in the UK, or even the US? I can't think of one.
I think i'd be safe to say that he's probably the largest jet dealer in the UK and would have a grasp on the economic state of the industry he's in.

Myself, i'm not on here much now as i can't afford to buy anything new to build, and so have nothing to post about.

So, rather than stating how bored you are with the forum, why not do something about it and pick up a mick reeves kit, or a thorjet kit and start building something, whilst supporting the industry at the same time?

I for one enjoy seeing and understanding the "Master Builders" jets and how they do things. I think we all learn a good amount of how two's and techniques to put toward are own models, weather they are a masterpiece scratch built of ARF.

I've been in this hobby and business for a good amount of time and there are many different types of modelers here. The world has gone from kits to ARF's due to demand, peoples time and quality of manufactures.
There are some fantastic company's out there making some great quality stuff. A lot of modelers just don't have the time or experience to Design, Develop, Manufacturer or build like the pro's. Many of my customers are very accomplished builders that have built many Fiberglass and foam wing kits. These days they just don't have the time or want to build that type of kit anymore due to the ARF world and the selection increasing.

I understand the saying "BUILD THREAD" can be misunderstood by many of the builders here but some guys refer to this word with ARF's as they have never built a kit from design to flight. There is still a great deal of things to be done on an ARF kit.

RCU build/assembly/install threads have been a key part of a lot of peoples success in this hobby. Weather its, Where to mount the engine or how to install the tanks and where is the best CG? all the way up to the masterpieces we see here and the custom composite parts made. We all benefit..

I think all the information is great and would not want to be a new or experianced modeler and not have this info at my fingertips....

Just my 2 cents..

Ha! I think RCU is still useful. How many good modelers have we saved from:

a: poor first jet decisions

b: buying fly eagle stuff

c: buying the "wrong" radio or equipment for their use

etc....

Maybe this view is even too negative. We've helped people in many positive ways! Giving and receiving compliments, advise on which components to use.....

I think RCU is useful. I enjoy laughing at some of the banter. Yes, sometimes it can get under our skin, but really, it's all about talking about our toys. We love it.

I start my "build" thread for other people who might wish to see what how a particular model is put together. I've even had people come in and give me ideas or point out mistakes I've made. Even if I don't agree, it makes me think about it.

The new format has been like mold, its grown on me. I hope the search function get changed soon.

In hell, the punishment will be using the search fxn on RCU, over and over and over and over and over and over......http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/v...Blues/1815.gif