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philjac94 06-24-2014 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by ravill (Post 11828996)
Its about time we see brushless motors in our turbines. Talk about ZERO maintenance and more precise control.

When brushless motors hit the R/c world, my mind was blown.

I hope that we can change over to the brushless fuel pumps in our brushed engines! Very unlikely I feel.

Oli, I'm out of money man, I can't buy anymore of all these turbines you keep throwing out here!!!

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...ys/money-2.gif

The M100 and M140 have had BL Starter Motors and Fuel Pumps for over a year now with excellent operational service, absolutely no issues seen.
Unfortunately there is no talk at the moment to release a BL upgrade retrofit kit for older series Brushed engines.

kmrcjets 06-24-2014 06:03 PM

kingtech's are cheaper K210G $3250us
ken

philjac94 06-24-2014 06:14 PM

A Draft horse is always cheaper than a race horse Ken :)

P.S. List price of the M200XBL is also US$3250 also but does not include shipping from Spain to Destination country.

kmrcjets 06-24-2014 06:22 PM

kingtech 21kg and free freight direct to customer

philjac94 06-24-2014 06:35 PM

Pretty sure I saw 210N (21kg) on the Merlin 200 video and I saw 28 Degrees C. Merlin does this at 550g/min fuel/min.
I havent seen a K210 video yet.

kmrcjets 06-24-2014 06:41 PM

seen that too them why not call it a merlin 210 instead of a 200

philjac94 06-24-2014 06:47 PM

Thats just pretty typical of Gaspar, all his engines have higher actual figures than the name suggests.
This way at elevated temperatures and altitudes the figure quoted in the name remains true.

sysiek 06-24-2014 06:51 PM

I think the Merlin it's much better with all the advanced technology witch kingtech just don't have ,I have two kingtech turbines and two Merlin vt-80's and the Merlins are much better + the service it's after 50h and the using 2 stroke oil the performance it's just sick ,don't get me wrong the kingtech turbines are grate to and the service with Barry it's 100% with fastest service time in the US the will be hard chose to decide witch to buy?,the Merlin it's the winer in all categories ,thrust,fuel consumption ,respond .the kingtech service and equal price and all the good thinks to go with will make me buy k-210g I just wish the fuel consumption will be little less .

philjac94 06-24-2014 07:10 PM

sysiek I know for a fact that the Jets Munt Service agents in the US have just as much pride as we have in their/our servicing turnaround times.
In Australia we particularly benefit from a very useable time difference between us and Spain so direct factory contact and support, pretty much 7 days a week is very reassuring.

sysiek 06-24-2014 07:22 PM

I know I will not buy a jet central or jet cat to much drama lately ,I will spend my money for the best product price service and warranty ,I don't drive Hyundai .

mavrick 06-24-2014 10:47 PM

Yeah but the draft horse will work all day the race horse is only good for a couple of miles Ha Ha Ha.
Cheers
Mav

philjac94 06-24-2014 10:50 PM

:)

Justflying1 06-24-2014 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by kmrcjets (Post 11829349)
seen that too them why not call it a merlin 210 instead of a 200

Does it really matter what it's called.
I think the most important thing to someone purchasing any engine is Service, thrust, fuel consumption, size ( which so far from what I have seen Merlin are producing some very small size engines which is great, electronics and price.
I think the price is very reasonable for the value you get.
At the end of the day they can call it Donkey 300 because for as long as on the specification sheet it puts out what is written that's all that matters.
And no I don't own any Merlin engines just seeing the logic of it all.

kmrcjets 06-25-2014 12:08 AM

hey phil draft horses are a special breed worth heaps on the other hand you can spend heaps on a race horse and wind up with an ass
ken

Justflying1 06-25-2014 12:43 AM

I'm on no one side here and I enjoy reading some treads including the start of this one when you here that a manufacturer has introduced something new to there line. I also enjoy doing build treads if I know someone is interested in it.
I however find some of the comments being said a little disgraceful.
I think Merlin just like some other brands have been out long enough to have earned a good reputation for them selves.
Honestly if anyone is not happy about the price well simply don't buy it. If it's crap, well fine bag it out but give it a chance before you do.
At the end of the day buy what you like and can afford to spend but no need for any nasty comments just for the sake of making other brands look better than what they are. If something is good people will buy it but some will always have a preferred brand.

philjac94 06-25-2014 12:44 AM

Ultimately pretty much all engines currently in the market deserve to be there, there is room for all.
I have owned plenty of engines from all the manufacturers mentioned on here so far and although some have had issues, I'm happy to say every issue has been delt with factory support in a manner we all expect, from this I know that they all take their businesses very seriously and so again my opinion is they deserve to be in business.
Personally im not interested in a slanging match between manufacturers or their fans, what does interest me is bringing a new exciting engine and all its innovation into the market.

jetster81 06-25-2014 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by Justflying1 (Post 11829464)
I'm on no one side here and I enjoy reading some treads including the start of this one when you here that a manufacturer has introduced something new to there line. I also enjoy doing build treads if I know someone is interested in it.
I however find some of the comments being said a little disgraceful.
I think Merlin just like some other brands have been out long enough to have earned a good reputation for them selves.
Honestly if anyone is not happy about the price well simply don't buy it. If it's crap, well fine bag it out but give it a chance before you do.
At the end of the day buy what you like and can afford to spend but no need for any nasty comments just for the sake of making other brands look better than what they are. If something is good people will buy it but some will always have a preferred brand.

I am 100% behind this comment and believe there are too many shills out there spoiling threads. Stop acting like kids.

olnico 06-25-2014 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by ravill (Post 11828996)

Oli, I'm out of money man, I can't buy anymore of all these turbines you keep throwing out here!!!

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...ys/money-2.gif


Ok, but you've got some pretty nice toys in your Hangar ;-)

RCJetBazz 06-25-2014 05:03 AM

Obviously it isn't putting out 210N in 33C ambient, or it would have been way over 250N in 15C standard, wonder what compensation formula is written in the software to indicate the thrust shown. Awesome engine at an excellent price, will most likely end up with one end of the year, congrats Merlin!

Dw

sysiek 06-25-2014 05:34 AM

I'm waiting for new jetjoe 209.5;)

ravill 06-25-2014 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by roger.alli (Post 11829263)
But Raff, don't you think one of these would look great nestled inside a BVM F-100.. (I think I can see one in my future!!)

Roger

You sir, are a mind reader!!!

I may just start complaining of having too many good choices of turbines around! http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...angry-rant.gif

roger.alli 06-25-2014 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by ravill (Post 11829722)
You sir, are a mind reader!!!

I may just start complaining of having too many good choices of turbines around! http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...angry-rant.gif

Haha.. Too spoilt for choice Raf.. This Jets Munt M200 engine will DEFINITLY over power a BVM Hun, BUT, it fits the bypass perfectly, has all the latest technology on board, and can of course be de tuned…

Actually, this thread is a by-product of the latest slavo in the turbine manufacturers wars.. I don’t think it is any accident that Kingtech have dropped the price of their newly released K210, the same week the M200XBL is released. At exactly the same price listed. (Albeit freight included). Turbines are just getting better, and cheaper.

Of course this war is all great for us, the end users. . But it means only the best and most innovative of the suppliers will survive.

Roger

DiscoWings 06-26-2014 10:07 PM

According to the website Diesel is OK. Sounds good to me:D

Ragz 07-01-2014 10:07 PM

I believe these engines are backordered already?

j.p.fillon 07-07-2014 10:20 AM

video ,first run :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z5D...ature=youtu.be


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