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arifai 05-23-2015 10:10 PM

fixing after burner
 
hi friends ,,
I have my tomahawk viper jet 2m , and I want to fix after burner ,, is there any way I have to do to protect the wire from the high heat of the tail pipe and not to melt .
thank you

madmodelman 05-25-2015 12:13 PM

Are you aware that Vipers do not have afterburners?

iflyrcjets 05-25-2015 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by madmodelman (Post 12043856)
Are you aware that Vipers do not have ?

It is also a model so he can have an after burner light ring if he wants to. Help if you can.

madmodelman 05-28-2015 05:14 AM

I didn't say he couldn't have an a/b, I was just making him aware of the fact ok!

rhklenke 05-28-2015 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by iflyrcjets (Post 12044123)
It is also a model so he can have an after burner if he wants to. Help if you can.

Well if he's in the US and is an AMA flyer, he can't have an afterburner - not an actual one anyway...

However, it sounds like he's not from the US, and his mentioning of a "wire" leads me to believe that he's talking about afterburner lights.

With afterburner lights, they need to go between the inner and outer pipes, if it is a double-walled pipe, and if not, obviously around the outside of the single pipe. There should be as much clearance as possible between the inner pipe and the light ring, so that air can flow between them and help keep the light ring from picking up the heat from the inner pipe. The LEDs on the light ring also generate a lot of heat on their own, so you should have as much cooling air flow as you can get on the ring as possible. I would also route the power wires from the light ring away from the pipe as early as possible - which means making a small hole in the outer pipe to get them to the outside. Make sure that the wires are well protected where they pass through the outer pipe wall...

Bob

iflyrcjets 05-28-2015 11:34 AM

Thanks for the info. This member may be one of the bots since his other post are interesting.

gunradd 05-28-2015 12:27 PM

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Bob I have never seen lights installed between the inner and outer wall on a pipe. Wouldn't that block the cooling air that is supposed to be flowing through the inner and out wall? On both of my planes I have the lights on the outside of the double wall pipe.

Would look better on the F16 if I could put them between the pipe walls but don't see how it can be done and still work good. Do you have any pics?

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2099229http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2099230


Originally Posted by rhklenke (Post 12045588)
Well if he's in the US and is an AMA flyer, he can't have an afterburner - not an actual one anyway...

However, it sounds like he's not from the US, and his mentioning of a "wire" leads me to believe that he's talking about afterburner lights.

With afterburner lights, they need to go between the inner and outer pipes, if it is a double-walled pipe, and if not, obviously around the outside of the single pipe. There should be as much clearance as possible between the inner pipe and the light ring, so that air can flow between them and help keep the light ring from picking up the heat from the inner pipe. The LEDs on the light ring also generate a lot of heat on their own, so you should have as much cooling air flow as you can get on the ring as possible. I would also route the power wires from the light ring away from the pipe as early as possible - which means making a small hole in the outer pipe to get them to the outside. Make sure that the wires are well protected where they pass through the outer pipe wall...

Bob


rhklenke 05-28-2015 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by gunradd (Post 12045673)
Bob I have never seen lights installed between the inner and outer wall on a pipe. Wouldn't that block the cooling air that is supposed to be flowing through the inner and out wall? On both of my planes I have the lights on the outside of the double wall pipe.

Would look better on the F16 if I could put them between the pipe walls but don't see how it can be done and still work good. Do you have any pics?

You know, you are right - color me embarrassed... :o

I was sure that I had seen a single row of LEDs like Dreamworks used to sell, installed between the inner and outer pipe, but maybe not. I know that the double ringed ones are too wide to go in there. There's at least a 1/4" between the walls on the Mueller pipe in my Panther and it seems like that could work - if the ring was the right size, but on my other pipes, there's not enough room...

My bad... :)

Bob

gunradd 05-28-2015 04:53 PM

Lol :)


Originally Posted by rhklenke (Post 12045815)
you know, you are right - color me embarrassed... :o

i was sure that i had seen a single row of leds like dreamworks used to sell, installed between the inner and outer pipe, but maybe not. I know that the double ringed ones are too wide to go in there. There's at least a 1/4" between the walls on the mueller pipe in my panther and it seems like that could work - if the ring was the right size, but on my other pipes, there's not enough room...

My bad... :)

bob


Harley Condra 05-29-2015 04:35 AM

Order a roll of this material and thread the wiring inside it.
http://www.autoanything.com/fuel-sys...r-heat-sleeves

mort78 05-29-2015 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by gunradd (Post 12045673)
Bob I have never seen lights installed between the inner and outer wall on a pipe. Wouldn't that block the cooling air that is supposed to be flowing through the inner and out wall? On both of my planes I have the lights on the outside of the double wall pipe.

Would look better on the F16 if I could put them between the pipe walls but don't see how it can be done and still work good. Do you have any pics?

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2099229http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2099230


David Hart is simply an amazing photographer. Haven't come across any photo's that weren't 'mint'.
Cool models too Gunny

arifai 05-31-2015 12:25 AM

thanks for everybody ,
and special thanks to ( rhklenke ) , he is absolutely right I am flying in Dubai U A E .


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