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David Searles 03-29-2016 04:03 PM

SM 1/5 F-86 "Black Angel" FliteMetal Weatronic 10-22 Gizmo Receiver Build Thread
 
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An oldie but goodie. This kit is one of the very first kits SkyMaster built. Originally sold to Sung Kim maybe 6-7 years ago, it sat in Master Builder Henry Ngyuen's shop un-completed. I just acquired.

First job plan the radio install. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155025 I cut a hatch in the scale location.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155026 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155027 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155028 I still need to install air fill valves, as well as one or two smaller pressure gauges.

FliteMetal is moving forward as well. I like to start with the smaller panels, and do rivet work on each part, as I go. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155029 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155030 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155031 My Scheme http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155032

David S

jsnipes 03-29-2016 04:32 PM

That's gonna be awesome .... can't wait to see it progress! JS

dubd 03-29-2016 10:14 PM

Looking good, Dave! Are you going with external linkages on the rudder or ailerons?

Edgar Perez 03-29-2016 10:54 PM

If you can, recommend you use the patch antennas. They provide an even better coverage.

Alex48 03-30-2016 12:02 AM

Hi David,

I'm really looking forward to your build. I don't know if these pictures will be any help but shows some of a build I did around five years ago.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3151924&type=3

Cheers, Alex

CraigG 03-30-2016 03:45 AM

David,

Do you have one of the new Weatronic BAT transmitters or are you using a DV module with the 10-22 rx?

Craig

David Searles 03-30-2016 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by Edgar Perez (Post 12196135)
If you can, recommend you use the patch antennas. They provide an even better coverage.

Edgar,

Yes, patch antennae is the plan. I have one installed at the top of the nose intake pointing down and forward. The nose will be painted, as the nose intake on the real jet is composite, so no FliteMetal to obstruct the reception. The second antennae I plan to install at the rear top of the cockpit, pointing up and back. The canopy frame will also be painted. The antennae will be located above the FM fuse radiating thru the clear canopy.

David S

David Searles 03-30-2016 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by CraigG (Post 12196181)
David,

Do you have one of the new Weatronic BAT transmitters or are you using a DV module with the 10-22 rx?

Craig

Craig,

I'm using the Bat 60. On the waiting list for the 64.:rolleyes:I saw the Bat 60 for the first time at BITW last year. Woody, from Ultimate Jets had a booth. Though, admittedly I had been talking about it with Oli some time before. Picked it up at tha AMA Show in Jan. Awesome radio! Now with the PowerBox involvement, I'm really excited.

David S

David Searles 03-30-2016 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by Alex48 (Post 12196141)
Hi David,

I'm really looking forward to your build. I don't know if these pictures will be any help but shows some of a build I did around five years ago.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3151924&type=3

Cheers, Alex

Alex,

Thanks for the link. I will definitely use them for reference.

David S

David Searles 03-30-2016 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by dubd (Post 12196130)
Looking good, Dave! Are you going with external linkages on the rudder or ailerons?

Dantley,

The jet has been set up for internal, work done by Henry Ngyuen, but I am leaning towards going external on the ailerons, maybe the rudder, as well. What's been your experience? I'm open to input.

David S

dubd 03-30-2016 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by David Searles (Post 12196220)
Dantley,

The jet has been set up for internal, work done by Henry Ngyuen, but I am leaning towards going external on the ailerons, maybe the rudder, as well. What's been your experience? I'm open to input.

David S

I started with external on the rudder based on feedback from Dustin at BVM. On my second flight my ailerons fluttered (internal linkage) at medium speed, so I converted to an external linkage and never had another issue, even at high speed. Have you decided on an engine? I suggest something in the 180 range. I had a 160 in mine and it was anemic. It could barely maintain level flight with gear, flaps, and speed brakes out.

BTW - The scheme you've selected looks awesome!

olnico 03-30-2016 06:32 AM

It's going to be a fantastic model.
And awsome scheme. Enjoy flight metalling!

CraigG 03-30-2016 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by David Searles (Post 12196200)
Craig,

I'm using the Bat 60. On the waiting list for the 64.:rolleyes:I saw the Bat 60 for the first time at BITW last year. Woody, from Ultimate Jets had a booth. Though, admittedly I had been talking about it with Oli some time before. Picked it up at tha AMA Show in Jan. Awesome radio! Now with the PowerBox involvement, I'm really excited.

David S

I picked up my BAT 60 from Woody after I saw it at Mississippi Afterburner last year. Perfect radio and rx combination for my A-10. A good choice for you F-86 also!

Craig

David Searles 03-30-2016 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by dubd (Post 12196234)
I started with external on the rudder based on feedback from Dustin at BVM. On my second flight my ailerons fluttered (internal linkage) at medium speed, so I converted to an external linkage and never had another issue, even at high speed. Have you decided on an engine? I suggest something in the 180 range. I had a 160 in mine and it was anemic. It could barely maintain level flight with gear, flaps, and speed brakes out.

BTW - The scheme you've selected looks awesome!

Do you have pics of your linkages you could post? Where is your c/g and surface throw measurements would be appreciated. Do you fly with the wing tanks? Thinking about ordering them as they weren't with this kit.

I'm planning on a 40lb Jet Central Rhino for power. Was thinking about the JB220 but they are back ordered for months. Saw one used on RCU, but someone else got it before I could.

David Searles 04-03-2016 03:02 PM

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Progress so far:http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155808 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155809 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155810http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155811 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155812 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155813 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2155814

George 04-03-2016 03:15 PM

Lookin' good Dave!! :cool:

FliteMetal 04-14-2016 11:30 AM

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...724271&thumb=1

I love it when I see a before and after sequence.
People often ask about crinkles and wrinkles...

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...724313&thumb=1

What's That? :D

Tom Antlfinger 04-15-2016 05:32 AM

Hi David: Sent you a PM re: JB220. I have two of them for sale, NIB, never run or mounted.

Tom

David Searles 04-15-2016 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by Tom Antlfinger (Post 12202475)
Hi David: Sent you a PM re: JB220. I have two of them for sale, NIB, never run or mounted.

Tom

Thanks! PM returned.

FalconWings 04-15-2016 06:55 AM

So.....great timing....I'm seriously considering using flite metal on a project I have on my bench. Is Flite Metal similar to the Aluminum tape they sell at the hardware store, or is it more "stretchable" or heat treateable?
Not trying to undermine the product in any way, just trying to understand how it is applied so I can "plan" accordingly. I really want to do this!

Thanks,
David

David Searles 04-15-2016 07:38 AM

"Similar" yes. There are a couple different types available, at Home Depot, for example, that I use for small panels/sections, as it only comes in 3"" width. One is very similar to FliteMetal. For large fuselage and wing sections, I've found nothing better though than FliteMetal. The FliteMetal is much more workable for stretching around curves etc.

David S

dbsonic 04-15-2016 07:39 AM

Wondered same. using tape, the panels would limited in size to about 2"x 2". tape sticks well but in the heat of the sun? Whereas David shows a large panel applied with FM and imagine it does well in the heat based on other models. Looks great.

David Searles 04-15-2016 07:51 AM

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These were all done with the Nashua tape I picked up from Home Depot. Works great and gives a nice contrast to the larger FM panels, as the material is slightly different.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2157464http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2157465http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2157463
Finished with FM http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2157466

FalconWings 04-15-2016 09:30 AM

That's actually the tape I use for small sections. I use it a lot to cover gear door gaps at the hinged edge. Cut it to a "flexible seal plate" shape, install, simulate little rivets and then paint over it.

Cool, looks like Flite Metal it is.

David

David Searles 07-13-2016 04:05 PM

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It's been a while, but here's the latest. Need to install lighting pkg and finish nose paint.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2172850http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2172851http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2172852http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2172853http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2172854http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2172855http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2172856

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2172847


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