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Ron S 12-25-2018 01:49 PM

Thanks for the input, guys. :) I had also made a test harness for my ER-40s, in which I used an old 5 cell JR NiCd pack. I just tested it on my new gear and they work fine with the ER-50s. I needed to actuate them to ensure one of my sets was indeed a 100 degree rotation setup.

I didn't even think to look up what their manual controller was for... :confused: Now I know! Thanks Florian! On my next order, I may pick one up, just to be on the safe side!

Have a good Christmas, guys!

sc0tt 12-26-2018 11:34 AM

Got my controller within a couple days ordering from JAG RC/Electron Retracts USA
makes install/set-up very easy
https://jag-rc.com/shop?olsPage=prod...ual-controller

https://www.facebook.com/electronretractsusa/

Steve Collins 12-26-2018 02:55 PM

I agree. That manual controller is a really nice tool for operating the retracts in situations where they need to be down in order to remove the wings but then need to be retracted for transport of the wings. The same is true when assembling the plane if the gear needs to be down to plug the wings in.

Zeeb 12-27-2018 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by sc0tt (Post 12488568)
Got my controller within a couple days ordering from JAG RC/Electron Retracts USA
makes install/set-up very easy
https://jag-rc.com/shop?olsPage=prod...ual-controller

https://www.facebook.com/electronretractsusa/

I was looking for a place to buy the controller but these links had not been posted yet, so I got a hold of Scott Marr and he gave me Greg's email address. I did not know he had a business and website.Greg replied with a link to the controller on his website, I got one ordered last night and he shipped it today. Can't beat that for service.

Viper1GJ 12-27-2018 04:11 PM

I did not know the manual controller was available till this thread. I'm ordering one tonight.
Thanks for the info.

jjantti 12-28-2018 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by Spuetz (Post 12366743)
Hi everyone,

does anyone have a good starting value from experience for setting the gyro values to the differential brakes? I'm using it in a C&C Aermacchi M 346. I don't want to mix brakes with steering, just want to keep it straight when braking. My brakes tend to have different braking power, left and right and the jet tended to veer to one side when I applied the brakes. But what do I start with? 20%? 50%? more?

Hi Spuetz

I have same M346 equipped with Xicoy LGC-15 which I believe is about the same as GS-200. I have no veering on brakes. It is actually very stable... just needs to have friction on tyres. I have set up that has low braking force and little gyro correction. I guessed these parameters last spring and haven't made any corrections since:
Pulse ratio 1/5, Steering mix 10%, Gyro mix 10%. Center 0%, Gain 100%, Gyro gain -10%

Hope this helps, Jyri

awanx 12-24-2019 11:07 AM

Friends, I have a set of er40 ( reversible) controlled by a GS200. One motor in one of the retracts went faulty and I ordered a new one. Its installed now, but a I face a strange problem in that retract. It is moving opposite to the other two. I have checked everything I the tr union is installed in the proper way. I did not find anyway option in GS200 to prevent this . Or to reverse one retract. Can anyone help?

Dansy 12-24-2019 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by awanx (Post 12571528)
Friends, I have a set of er40 ( reversible) controlled by a GS200. One motor in one of the retracts went faulty and I ordered a new one. Its installed now, but a I face a strange problem in that retract. It is moving opposite to the other two. I have checked everything I the tr union is installed in the proper way. I did not find anyway option in GS200 to prevent this . Or to reverse one retract. Can anyone help?

You just need to reversed the plug into the slot ie red to black and black to red...it's because you have that one in reverse mode

scoeroo 12-24-2019 11:44 AM

Transpose the retract motor leads -

Pondus 12-24-2019 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by awanx (Post 12571528)
Friends, I have a set of er40 ( reversible) controlled by a GS200. One motor in one of the retracts went faulty and I ordered a new one. Its installed now, but a I face a strange problem in that retract. It is moving opposite to the other two. I have checked everything I the tr union is installed in the proper way. I did not find anyway option in GS200 to prevent this . Or to reverse one retract. Can anyone help?


Unplug the two other units and cycle this one so they all are in the same position. Then plug them all in, and then they should operate together.

winter1 11-28-2020 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by FlorianDo (Post 12488359)
I prefer to use manual controller from electron for installation and field assembly of the wings to the fuselage. Spending 40 bucks or so to avoid burned retracts was worth the price to me..

I agree, it is difficult to do without a control unit when installing and adjusting the retractable landing gear. ***winter***
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...70f33fbf5a.jpg

winter1 11-28-2020 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by awanx (Post 12571528)
Friends, I have a set of er40 ( reversible) controlled by a GS200. One motor in one of the retracts went faulty and I ordered a new one. Its installed now, but a I face a strange problem in that retract. It is moving opposite to the other two. I have checked everything I the tr union is installed in the proper way. I did not find anyway option in GS200 to prevent this . Or to reverse one retract. Can anyone help?

You can solve the reverse operation of the aircraft's retractable landing gear by reversing the polarity of the JR servo connectors in your controller. Exactly as the guys say. ***winter***
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...3a8803fc6d.jpg

Dansy 11-28-2020 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by winter1 (Post 12647129)
You can solve the reverse operation of the aircraft's retractable landing gear by reversing the polarity of the JR servo connectors in your controller. Exactly as the guys say. ***winter***

You only have to reverse them (normally) if you reversed the retract from what how they were deliver, at least that’s my experience..

winter1 11-28-2020 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Dansy (Post 12647139)
You only have to reverse them (normally) if you reversed the retract from what how they were deliver, at least that’s my experience..

Hi Daniel,
yes, you need to do the mechanical adjustment first. I think the manufacturer supplies retractable gear set up to fit into the foam cutouts in the box.
The landing gear was delivered to me in a mechanical setup that could not be used for the T-1.
In the photo (above) is mechanically set reverse operation. That's fine for the T-1. Changing the settings is a matter of minutes. ***winter***
-This is why the polarity of the connectors must be reversed !-

Dansy 11-28-2020 09:47 AM

Humm I wasn't asking.....I have no problems... ahah

Dave Wilshere 11-28-2020 09:54 AM

I think a nose motor is reversed to a main...

winter1 11-28-2020 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Dansy (Post 12647188)
Humm I wasn't asking.....I have no problems... ahah

I know you have no problems. :D I just supplemented my previous post to make it complete and understandable. So I hope it is ..... :) ***winter***

Dansy 11-28-2020 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by winter1 (Post 12647210)
I know you have no problems. :D I just supplemented my previous post to make it complete and understandable. So I hope it is ..... :) ***winter***

‘I guess just the way it was writing 😬....I installed electron in quite a few airplanes :) and I have a few more to do this winter.....I’m actually playing with the first set of NG that I see......pretty cool motors for the monster plane, going into a Pirotti G91 .....

winter1 11-28-2020 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Dansy (Post 12647214)
‘I guess just the way it was writing 😬....I installed electron in quite a few airplanes :) and I have a few more to do this winter.....I’m actually playing with the first set of NG that I see......pretty cool motors for the monster plane, going into a Pirotti G91 .....

This is a really big retractable landing gear..
https://www.google.com/search?hl=cs&...sy-ab&ved=0ahU
Pirotti G91- Modelcity Czech Republic
***winter***

Dansy 11-28-2020 01:58 PM

Yes it’s a huge plane the gear is big and pretty heavy but does look great........with electron er50 NG and the pro controller, it will work nicely....this model is a lot of work but I’m sure the owner will enjoy it for a long time......


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