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LGM Graphix 09-08-2016 09:02 AM

I used to come here a lot. Did a lot of build threads, painting tutorials etc. I've been here very little lately for a few reasons.

First of all, I'm bored with the site. While there are still a number of posts happening, I'm bored with it being so much of the same. Even new jets coming out, they are more of the same. There is little new that interests me. It's either way to big or looks like a pregnant fish. When it comes to the new products to put into jets, it's just not my thing. I'm old school in nature and flying jets that don't require all the flashy glitzy stuff that is coming out. I have stuck with the tried and true methods for decades and anytime I've tried the newest latest and greatest I've experienced some kind of issue. Not to say there is nothing good out there new, far from it, the technology is evolving at a tremendous rate and some incredible product is coming out but it's nothing I need or want.

Secondly, I got put off when I would spend hours writing tutorials on painting and yet if I put up a post saying that yes, I would paint jets, or put up pictures of more of my stuff as examples, it would get closed or outright removed and I'd be told that I can't post graphical ad's unless I was a paying advertiser, in the meantime, other people would pop up on this site, never offering a word of advice and every single post they made was advertising for their paint services.

Third, just tired of the manufacture bashing. Yes we are playing with high dollar toys and I guess there is no reason we should expect less than perfect, but the fact that somebody crashes an airplane these days and then comes on here wanting a free airplane pisses me off. I've been flying on my own since I was 5 years old, 1982. I've been through good kits and bad kits, I've been through the first ARF's that were overpriced and fell apart, I've been through the fly by night manufactures, I've been through the long term manufactures and at some point all of us have something fail. I've always accepted it's part of the game. I had RAM turbine after RAM turbine blow up on me. If there was no warranty, even if the engine had no hours, I sucked it up as part of the risk. Sucked bigtime but I've always felt we are accepting a risk with anything we buy.

Finally, I started noticing some of the original posters on here stopped posting, the ones who have a plethora of experience. I'm sure they too quit posting or slowed way down because they got tired of the armchair experts telling them they are doing it wrong, or getting into arguments when they have zero experience.

The entire hobby has changed and while I still enjoy the flying aspect the overall hobby is not as enjoyable as it used to be. Every event I go to, you can see the people there have divided into groups. It's not the same social hobby it used to be. The jet crowd is still probably the best for being social at events though.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the hobby still, but I guess it's why all the jets I have are at least 10 years old now, there is little out there that excites me in the way of new products. Or if a new jet is released that I like, it's usually way to big. I'm not interested in jets that I need a toy hauler to take anywhere that burns 2 gallons of fuel every flight.

Just my thoughts.

Terry Holston 09-08-2016 10:27 AM

I found a good Porn site.......LOL

tp777fo 09-08-2016 12:02 PM

Went the same place as plans, builders, sanders, painters, hobbyshop engineers. How many kits are manufactured now....a few BVM, Avonds..not many. Everyone gets a mostly build airplane out of the box, and assembles it. Some guys even take a look at how they were built and "fix" Chinese design flaws...even on the "premium" kits. We dont have builders any more and thus fewer and fewer experts. Want to experience a great thrill...get a Avonds F-16 and build it less than 20#, fly it on a small motor...it is a great flying jet. Want to experience the ultimate...build an Avonds Fuga. Smell glue again, see balsa dust and experience the thrill of real modelling.

LGM Graphix 09-08-2016 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by terry holston (Post 12255556)
i found a good porn site.......lol


bwwwaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

paulhat 09-08-2016 02:26 PM

I still like the site.
Come here most days...Ignore the BS and usually learn something.

rcmigpilot 09-08-2016 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Terry Holston (Post 12255556)
I found a good Porn site.......LOL

Water just came out of my nose
Warn me next time so I don't take a drink first

quist 09-09-2016 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by Zeeb (Post 12255362)
Well I tried sending you a PM about how to contact you since I could not get anywhere on your website, so I'll try this method; how do I get ahold of you?


ON Facebook!

Zeeb 09-09-2016 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by quist (Post 12255771)
ON Facebook!

Well thanks for the information. Some of us don't do the Zuckerberg dance and when Marc says on this forum that there is contact information on his website, I sort of expected to be able to get and email address.

marc s 09-10-2016 01:08 AM

Zeeb,

I have contacted you via the PM you sent, sorry but I was on holiday and make a point of switching off as I'm sure you do to.

marcs

mongo 09-10-2016 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by tp777fo (Post 12255569)
Went the same place as plans, builders, sanders, painters, hobbyshop engineers. How many kits are manufactured now....a few BVM, Avonds..not many. Everyone gets a mostly build airplane out of the box, and assembles it. Some guys even take a look at how they were built and "fix" Chinese design flaws...even on the "premium" kits. We dont have builders any more and thus fewer and fewer experts. Want to experience a great thrill...get a Avonds F-16 and build it less than 20#, fly it on a small motor...it is a great flying jet. Want to experience the ultimate...build an Avonds Fuga. Smell glue again, see balsa dust and experience the thrill of real modelling.

well tom,
one thing i do not miss too much, is, breathing all that balsa dust.

do miss the old days of the southwest fan fly.

tp777fo 09-10-2016 04:19 AM

A little balsa dust never hurt anyone....hack, hack

TTRotary 09-14-2016 07:20 PM

Wasn't on here long, but I'm out. Many good guys, but the 10% stupid blowhard jackasses ruin it. Guys who ridicule safety, basic aeronautics, logic, and fuel system setup, and have to argue about everything. I feel bad for folks like olnico who try to educate these curmudgeon morons.

Enough. Life is too short and better spent learning, building, and flying.

FalconWings 09-15-2016 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by LGM Graphix (Post 12255527)
I used to come here a lot. Did a lot of build threads, painting tutorials etc. I've been here very little lately for a few reasons.

First of all, I'm bored with the site. While there are still a number of posts happening, I'm bored with it being so much of the same. Even new jets coming out, they are more of the same. There is little new that interests me. It's either way to big or looks like a pregnant fish. When it comes to the new products to put into jets, it's just not my thing. I'm old school in nature and flying jets that don't require all the flashy glitzy stuff that is coming out. I have stuck with the tried and true methods for decades and anytime I've tried the newest latest and greatest I've experienced some kind of issue. Not to say there is nothing good out there new, far from it, the technology is evolving at a tremendous rate and some incredible product is coming out but it's nothing I need or want.

Secondly, I got put off when I would spend hours writing tutorials on painting and yet if I put up a post saying that yes, I would paint jets, or put up pictures of more of my stuff as examples, it would get closed or outright removed and I'd be told that I can't post graphical ad's unless I was a paying advertiser, in the meantime, other people would pop up on this site, never offering a word of advice and every single post they made was advertising for their paint services.

Third, just tired of the manufacture bashing. Yes we are playing with high dollar toys and I guess there is no reason we should expect less than perfect, but the fact that somebody crashes an airplane these days and then comes on here wanting a free airplane pisses me off. I've been flying on my own since I was 5 years old, 1982. I've been through good kits and bad kits, I've been through the first ARF's that were overpriced and fell apart, I've been through the fly by night manufactures, I've been through the long term manufactures and at some point all of us have something fail. I've always accepted it's part of the game. I had RAM turbine after RAM turbine blow up on me. If there was no warranty, even if the engine had no hours, I sucked it up as part of the risk. Sucked bigtime but I've always felt we are accepting a risk with anything we buy.

Finally, I started noticing some of the original posters on here stopped posting, the ones who have a plethora of experience. I'm sure they too quit posting or slowed way down because they got tired of the armchair experts telling them they are doing it wrong, or getting into arguments when they have zero experience.

The entire hobby has changed and while I still enjoy the flying aspect the overall hobby is not as enjoyable as it used to be. Every event I go to, you can see the people there have divided into groups. It's not the same social hobby it used to be. The jet crowd is still probably the best for being social at events though.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the hobby still, but I guess it's why all the jets I have are at least 10 years old now, there is little out there that excites me in the way of new products. Or if a new jet is released that I like, it's usually way to big. I'm not interested in jets that I need a toy hauler to take anywhere that burns 2 gallons of fuel every flight.

Just my thoughts.

Good one Jeremy.

DrScoles 09-15-2016 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by Turbulence (Post 12254907)
I am in no way blaming Andre, and I applaud him for apologizing to Pegasus who I consider and Expert. But maybe we all need to take a step back and before we jump at others here. I am not saying some don't deserve it.

Ralph


Come on now, this is the internet. Nobody takes a step back on anything... nor do they think before they type, even though they have ample time to do so before hitting enter... ;-)

BarracudaHockey 09-15-2016 07:54 AM

I expect and tolerate the chaff to get to the wheat

Furyflyer2 09-16-2016 07:19 AM

They went to http://www.giantscalenews.com/ I think?

luv2flyrc 09-17-2016 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Furyflyer2 (Post 12258266)
They went to http://www.giantscalenews.com/ I think?

Hardly, there's very few posts on there. Nice plug though.

ghost_rider 09-17-2016 01:13 PM

"Old soldiers never die; they just fade away." into Quadcopter and drone world.

Secondly "
Pharaoh who Knew not Joseph" are now in charge of the forum.

Terry Holston 09-18-2016 12:22 PM

Ben has gone to the Dark side..............May the Force be with him.........LOL


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