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jvaliensi 11-19-2022 07:33 AM

Sebart 2m Avanti Experience?
 
Anyone try one of the larger (2m) Avanti's? I think I saw one at Best in the West this year. It appears to be a larger brother to the mini Avanti and has the same style of construction of a fiberglass fuselage and wood wings and tails. I wonder how good the quality is?
It is a bit confusing because they offer a 1.9m version too and it cost considerably less.

https://gator-rc.com/sebart-avanti-s...landing-yellow


https://gator-rc.com/sebart-avanti-x...f-landing-gear

I've heard tales of the wings ripping off the 1.9m version.

Desertlakesflying 11-20-2022 11:27 AM

Have a local guy that flies one all the time. He pulls on it pretty hard too. Seems to be a great plane.

Dansy 11-20-2022 02:01 PM

I know a guy that has one in Alberta, he had that jet for quite a while, and some video where not that gentle, flying it hard ;) he didn’t split his wing, and I never heard of that from Sebart jets…..I build for a friend an XS and that was a nice little jet, he flew it hard and never broke either…

Zeeb 11-20-2022 06:25 PM

Some controversy exists over the SebArt Avanti S. It's a great flying model, but the landing gear is an issue. Basically, the stock gear does not work, if you want to retract the gear, you must roll the model inverted on takeoff or you can forget getting retracted. The D&L conversion to electric is a joke; lots of money and totally unreliable. Lots of reports online of these issues and despite a friend having the issue, I figured I could beat the odds by going with the more expensive XiCoy controller; I was wrong. It burnt out motors before my builder could even get it off the bench.

Last option was the Electron gear. That works really well but requires some tinkering to get it mounted and working, bad downside is that it's a $900 option.

It's a gorgeous model and very well built. I had the black/yellow/red scheme shown in the ad you linked. I also have a VT pipe installed and it flew great, very honest. Only thing I HAD to do was to remove the blue tint from the canopy and retint/spray the thing black. Made a WHOLE lot of difference in how well the model looked.

The Krill version was supposed to be an effort to offer composite wings that fit the existing model. As is common with Ivo Krill, he does not abide by agreements made in this regard. He modified the model so that his wings would not fit the older models, made a bit larger at 2.2 M so nothing interchanges. Both models fly very well, but the Krill is a chunk more money and has the same landing gear issues.

If you are wanting to go VT, you'll need a bigger engine, mine had a Behotec 180 and that worked pretty well, but something in the 200 range would be better especially if you want to do hovering.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...540db83cad.gif

jvaliensi 11-21-2022 06:43 AM

I thought they used JP gear with the latest Sebart kits? My small Avanti was equipped with them and they worked great.
JP would be a lesser cost upgrade compared to the Electron.

DUCMOZ 11-22-2022 03:22 PM

Sorry to jump in but I think the one Zeeb is talking about is different than the one you are asking about. The one you are asking about is 1.9 meter version which is new. The one Zeeb is talking about is the original version which I believe was slightly larger. (maybe 2.1 or 2.2 meter). if you search you will find the thread for that one which if I recall correctly was started by Dr. Scoles.

Behzad

Zeeb 11-22-2022 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by DUCMOZ (Post 12752244)
Sorry to jump in but I think the one Zeeb is talking about is different than the one you are asking about. The one you are asking about is 1.9 meter version which is new. The one Zeeb is talking about is the original version which I believe was slightly larger. (maybe 2.1 or 2.2 meter). if you search you will find the thread for that one which if I recall correctly was started by Dr. Scoles.

Behzad

I think you are confused. My model was the original 2M Avanti S with a composite fuse and built up wings.

Seba cut a deal with Ivo Krill for a version with composite wings and provide retrofit available wings for the first versions. The first thing Ivo did was to increase the size of the model to 2.1 and make design changes that would prohibit the use of the new composite wings on the original.

I've not seen anything posted by Mike concerning a 1.9M version of this model. IIRC, he did do a write up on the "mini" version of this model which was designed as a ducted fan which could be converted to a Turbine.

DUCMOZ 11-22-2022 04:18 PM

Hi Zeeb, this is what they are selling now.

https://www.sebartusa.com/online-sto...cts-p131429059


jvaliensi 11-22-2022 08:36 PM

Hi,
My 1st post has two hyperlinks to Gator RC. They are selling two versions: 1.9m and 2.0m. There is about $1k price difference between the two.



Originally Posted by DUCMOZ (Post 12752252)
Hi Zeeb, this is what they are selling now.

https://www.sebartusa.com/online-sto...cts-p131429059


gringotuerto 05-28-2025 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by jvaliensi (Post 12752279)
Hi,
My 1st post has two hyperlinks to Gator RC. They are selling two versions: 1.9m and 2.0m. There is about $1k price difference between the two.

I have both of these. If you are talking about length, they are 1.9m and 2.2m. I know there are places on GatorRC website where they refer to the latter as "2m". I don't know exactly why. Either got lazy, or they are referring to the wingspan. But I ordered that one from GatorRC, and it is 2.2m long.

jvaliensi 05-28-2025 02:47 PM

Pilot and Sebart tend to list their aiplane sizes by fuselage lenght, while most others use wing span. There is not a standard convention.

gringotuerto 05-28-2025 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by jvaliensi (Post 12820546)
Pilot and Sebart tend to list their aiplane sizes by fuselage lenght, while most others use wing span. There is not a standard convention.

Hmm... seems to me it is mostly jets in general that cite the length. But anyway the main point is, if a single vendor website cites 1.9m length for one Avanti, and cites 2m wingspan for the other Avanti, that seems a bit needlessly confusing. Sure there is no standard convention, but one website selling several sizes of the same plane model should probably pick one or the other method, and stick to it.


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