RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

Justin and Billy,

Just a short note to ruin your day. I am NOT an electric flyer. I am NOT a trainer flyer. Try to wrap your small minds around the fact that I FLY ANYTHING I CAN GET MY HANDS ON AND HAVE FUN WITH. YOU guys probably more $ invested in strange types of batteries and have better charging equipment than I do. If that is your problem, it is not mine. Get off this 'anti electric flyer' kick, it is wrong and so are you. Justin for a graphic guy you sure do seem to have a personal problem. Get some personal help dude, before you hurt yourself.

It is low life jerks and their rotten attitudes shown to and about other types of modelers that hurts the entire community. You and BillyBau are welcome to stay in that group of pin heads and waive your rear ends, er waivers in our faces and tell exactly how and why you are so much better than everyone else. Or you could back off a bit and join the rest of the human beings I play with in this hobby.

As for the question about turbine ownership, that is another canard launched by a small mind. However, I have been thinking about it and YOU fine examples are convincing me to avoid doing that because I like other modelers and enjoy their company when I play. Keep up the good work of insuring the purity of your group of losers who need to be worshiped by all.

Now for a quote from elsewhere (spelling and all!) for you to try to understand when you go trashing others in the hobby. "JUST DON'T FORGET THE SMALL GUYS OR THEY WON'T MOVE UP,THEY WILL GET DISCURAGED AND WE LOSE FUTURE JET PILOTS." If that happens, I assure you the waiver system will have no need to exist. If that is your goal, then you don't need to change a thing because soon enough there won't be enough to support your habit, er hobby. If you don't want that to happen, I suggest a major shift in your arrogant attitude.

RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

Surely, the real work is done by the designers,the kit manufacturers,scratch builders,but how I see it, is the REAL skill is with the people that make these models available for everyone else has been missed, you know,AEROMODELLERS!!
That's where it's at I'm afraid....sorry to dissapoint.
Now be accepting of each other, and enjoy your hobby.
I wonder if this type of argument exists in other hobbies?

RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

Isn't all this relative? Before turbines came out, the average plane at a jet meet was a 120 m.p.h. bird (or thereabouts, yes?). Some of the EDFs out there can hang with those numbers any day. Now, suddenly, there's this problem that needs to be solved by recommending to the EDF guys that they need a separate event......

I'm curious; has there actually been a midair witnessed at an event between an EDF and a Turbine? Probably not.

A lot of this stuff sounds like good ol' fashioned status and self-importance to me. Someone argued that planes flying together should be in the same ball-park when it comes to pricetag. I had to laugh when I read that. Now, assuming that the less expensive plane has as much right to be there as the more expensive plane, and that the entry fee was not pro-rated based on pricetag, can't you see how asenine that sounds? Where will it end? Gonna start with having events exclusively for the 15k-and-up birds? LOL

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Actually, that whole episode was one big misunderstanding. I wasn't pleading for a trophy, I was asking why a foam pusher beat all the EDFs at the meet. This includes both Daren's and Ed's. I wasn't competing for the trophy.

Mike immediately explained what happened and apologized saying that he, too thought we (the EDF flyers present) deserved it, but that he didn't want to appear to be biased by overruling the judges.

I accepted his explanation and removed my offensive post.

A little later one of the judges weighed in explaining their criteria, which I accepted as yet another misunderstanding and moved on.

In the mean time, a few of the turbine guys misunderstood the tone of my original post and took it to mean that I wanted a trophy for my model, which wasn't the case.

If you're referring to my reply to Paul on this thread, then you have to understand that his original post was made in jest and mine was made with my tongue planted firmly in my cheek. I thought I was clear enough, but perhaps not. I want fewer rules, not more because the rules only divide us.

I really think this whole thing has gotten blown way out of proportion and I'm afraid this will irreparably harm the jet community, so I'd like to ask everyone to take a step back, take a deep breath and get back to what we all love --jet modeling.

Dan

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Good points, Shaun.

Let's drop this whole thing and get back to modeling.

Dan

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I agree let's drink all of this wine, I brought the cheese. I propose a tost to one of the coolest forms of R/C flying. JETS![sm=thumbup.gif]



http://www.italianencounters.com/graphics/cheese.jpg

RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

You guys need to lay off the coffee [sm=stupid.gif][sm=stupid.gif][sm=stupid.gif]

RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

It doesn't matter what anyone say's now, as post's are being selectively deleted.

I think the moderator should delete the post with a picture of a kid sticking a butter knife in a wall outlet. Wouldn't want to give any youngster's on here the wrong idea now would we?;)

RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

Justin,
I don't know about doors, but I guess it is possible you do them too.

Congratulations for clearly being the best there is at anything anyone wants to consider. I hope the turbine community appreciates your efforts at creating an elitist group image. Your pictures demonstrate your level of commitment to the hobby and turbine group. Let us know when you intend to join the human race and be a modeler instead of a problem for the rest of us.

I won't remark on your clothing comment since it is also clear that you go commando. It is clear that you need some education, but I don't want to waste the time and effort on your kind as I prefer MODELERS. However, in fairness you need to research your assertions before you look as stupid as you sound. Might find out who you are throwing rocks at with the 'electric folks' comment.

Keep up the good work of turning all potential turbine folks off with your arrogance. Unless there some REAL PEOPLE in the local turbine community, maybe I should cancel the plans for purchasing things I have been making since I detest this type of attitude. Going to have to consider that one carefully.

Have Blue, I disagree. Let the pictures stay because they clearly show the wealth of knowledge and value these kind of guys bring to the table in their effort to become autonomous and make sure they are the stars of everything.

RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

Hey, why don't you guys get a life! ;) Get back to flying Jets.[8D] Get back to building Jets!:) Get back to Repairing Jets, That's what I'm gonna do! LOL:D

RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

Take a look at the FACTS This is the link to the BITW Flier which DOES NOT STATE that the "BEST IN THE WEST" the Wests Premere Jet Rally is a TURBINE ONLY Event. [link=http://www.jawdetail.com/BITW%20Root%20Folder/downloads/BITW04flyer.pdf]BEST IN THE WEST Flyer[/link]

The next time you go flying at "YOUR" Jet Rally, Make Darn SURE it States "TURBINE AIRCRAFT ONLY" or shut your kerosene burning, smoke belching pie-hole.

RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

Pass the F'N popcorn!

RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

Billy,

You ARE being facetious, aren't you? If you're not, I submit to you that it's wrong (and insultingly unfair to him) for you to cut Sandslx some kinda extra slack on his 'commentary' because he's in a wheelchair. I'm sure Justin doesn't feel like his chair is some kind of talisman against being taken to task for his posts, so you probably shouldn't either.


Jim B.:

I like your style, Sir.

RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

Best week we have had on the Jet Forum in a year.

RE: Turbines and Edf's performing on the same stage.
 

Yellow,
Are you kidding, you can submit all you want.

I recommend you submit in duplicate for a clue!