AMT AT180 thrust rating?
 

I was just wondering what the thrust rating was on this turbine? Is it auto start? Thank you.

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there are 2 versions. one is 18lbs and the sp is 20 lbs. very reliable turbine. does not come at this time with autostart. but it is the easiest air start turbine you can get. i have had 2 at180's for 2 and a half years and never had a flame out. barry

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Thank you!

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Hi Kenny,

If you are looking for full auto-start on the AMT design engines, then you will find them at AMT Netherlands. All of their engines have this option available. It will cost you more up front but after having my at180 shed it bearings after only 5 flights since a bearing job was done on it recently it comes out to be more cost effective to go with the best in the first place. As far as reliability goes I think the AMT design is tops and found that to be true in the past with the three engines that I originally purchase from the U.S. but after the purchase of the forth engine (an at400) and the bearing thing on the at180 all I can say is that all of my future AMT engines and service will be from the Netherlands. I'm not the only one that has experienced this either, so if you want to get into an at180 cheep, I know a person that will sell you two of them for a song. (one fairly new and one back with a bearing job done on it.)
I have just recently purchased an AMT Netherlands Olypmus HP and couldn't be more satisfied with the quality of the engine. My at180 is also in the Netherlands for a bearing job. After seeing the difference between my at400 and the beautiful craftmanship on the AMT Netherlands Olympus HP, my money is with the later. With all that is riding on a solid engine, ( or any other equipment that goes into a jet) it just doesn't make sense to me to go any other way than with the best available.

regards,
Kim

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I also go with the best
am on vacation in Arizona in October where around the 17th
is the best place to meet jetflyers around Tuscon

regards

Brian

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Just to make sure you don't get confused if you place an order with AMT and they tell you that it is in fact autostart ... AMT classifies their engines as autostart if they can be started by TX control rather than by using the controls on a start-box. Thus, my AMT280 is actually autostart even though I have to hook an umbilical up to the system. (The umbilical carries air for the starter, propane, electrical, etc).

In other words, in AMT's terminology, autostart does not mean starting via a built-in electrical starter... it's "auto" because it automatically handles the sequencing of air, gas, etc. rather than you having to manually control that as was previously the case.

Gordon

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Kim Wrote:
<<<all I can say is that all of my future AMT engines and service will be from the Netherlands. I'm not the only one that has experienced this either,>>>

Hi Kim,
My Bud Kevin Marks has been running mercs, several peggys and an oly from AMT USA and they have been completely dependable. I have never seen one of them EVER quit running. If the AT-400 was sold with elec auto start it would the top selling motor in the 30+lb thrust class.
V..

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ditto.

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Yes Gordon you are correct as far as the U.S. engines are concerned but the AMT Netherlands engines have a new ECU for the full on-board electric start (no umbilical). So I think the U.S. AMT is falling behind the curve with thier electronics and electric start. The U.S. electric start is not full on-board starting either. Why bother having electric start (if they ever do get it together) and still have to connect an umbilical for the power source to run the starter motor and gas valves?

regards,
Kim

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Vince wrote:

<<<Hi Kim,
My Bud Kevin Marks has been running mercs, several peggys and an oly from AMT USA and they have been completely dependable.>>>

The first three engines that I bought from AMT USA (a few years ago) were great, reliable, and well machined. I couldn't have been happier with them but what I have gotten through them recently is crap. (Skeet has experienced the same also). My AT400 looks like someone built it with an ax! Hey, they finally got it to run without flaming out. Anyone want a good deal on it?

truly yours,
Kim

P.S.

And, you would have to pry my dead cold fingers off my earlier engines to get them away from me! They will just be seviced in Holland from now on.

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I was under the impression that AMT Holland would not work on AMT USA manufactured turbines. Is this not the case?

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Hi Craig,

It is the reverse that is true. AMT USA won't service the AMT Netherlands engines. Why? My guess is the bad blood between the two companies (much less the fact that they seem do be struggling with keeping abreast of their own internal demands). I don't know enough details on that situation to make any informed statements. However, the biggest difference that I see is that Bennie over in Holland relies on his companies sales and service as his primary source of income. So, AMT Netherlands has the owner of the company at the helm. Conversely, the owner of AMT USA is wrapped up in other endeavors that precludes his constant over-site of that particular concern. (as I understand it from Mr. Weigle, who told me that he is involved to a great degree with other concerns currently).

So, to draw an analogy.....................The finest restaurants that I dine at, you will find the owner there almost all of the time to greet you and then make sure you are completely satisfied with the food and service when you leave. ( you can do the math)

regards,
Kim