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vfr_rider2000 08-02-2002 02:20 AM

Jet Web Pages and Such
 
As I bounce around to various Mfg. websites, I feel sorry for them that there content is not richer and that they are slow to display pages due to some of the graphics.

I'm not saying all Mfg sites are like this just alot and I choose not to list names.

If anyone would like help with Website design let me know and we can work something out. I would just love to see sites with more content than what is currently out there.

Mike

Turbinator-inactive 08-02-2002 02:52 AM

Web sites
 
Top Gun Aircraft is probably the worst I have seen :-)
www.tgajets.com

Glennis is one of the nicest.
www.glennis.com

PW

tamjets 08-02-2002 03:32 AM

Website low budget
 
Most of us are not good or don't know how to built good website. That is not our field. But to hired a proffessional. We don't had the budget for it. In this hobby industry. Is very hard to make money. I think reputation is more important than how good the website look. But I still like to had a nice website if I had the budget for it.

Brg,
Tam
First time learn doing website.
www.tamjets.com

EddieWeeks 08-02-2002 04:03 AM

Jet Web Pages and Such
 
Hey... Tam... I just checked your site out and
I think its great. Lots of color and all the info
you need to buy your stuff. What else is there.. ?

Eddie Weeks
(my site suc%s)
http://www.corpcomp.com/weeks1/

vfr_rider2000 08-02-2002 04:20 AM

Websites
 
Tam,

Trade schools are great places for help with websites. I do web design as a hobby. I don't want to start a war about who's site is better than who's.

Mike

aparchment 08-02-2002 02:46 PM

keeping web sites up to date
 
For what it's worth, hobby related web sites don't have to be high dollar investments. The key though is to keep them current with updates and new imagery. Without continuous updates users will not return on a regular basis. Furthermore if the info. on the site is out of date, then there is no reason for users to go there at all.

I am continually disappointed that the AMT web site is only updated every 6 months or so, as a result I hardly go there. By contrast David Shulman and Bob update the BVM website many times a month. I probably go there once or twice a week. RCUniverse has new content every few minutes. I come here at least once a day.

Antony

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-JC- 08-02-2002 03:17 PM

Websites
 
I have designed a couple of web sites for R/C related stuff:

The Official Top Gun site @ www.franktiano.com/topgun.htm

The Scale Jets International site @ www.franktiano.com/SJI.htm (Still in progress)

The Simjet site @ www.simjet.com (Not doing updates for them anymore, so more than 75% of the photo's in their gallery are of planes that no longer fly Simjet, and the formatting is now all screwed up. But I think it looked pretty good when new. )

FTE's online shop @ www.franktiano.com/store/index.htm

Most of them where done in a couple of nights of work. It does not take much work with the right software, but it is fun to do.

lov2flyrc 08-02-2002 03:39 PM

Jet Web Pages and Such
 
Profit margin is slim with most of the hobby based business and creating websites can be costly. Unless you have someone in house that can create and update the site on a regular basis like BVM, the costs can outweigh the profit margin the website provides. True, website construction is not extremely difficult with the right software and time but you do have to be computer literate to create them. I am far from a web designer but have spent a few months teaching myself how to do it in my spare time. Most of the small manufacturers just dont have the time or funding to construct elaborate pages.
I offered what little spare time I had to help Jetcat USA construct a new site. Although far from perfect or professional the page has all the information required and it is manageable. Site was created for them at no charge. Those who complain and wish to see more information or better quality website might try helping these small companies out by doing the same....

Todd

ghost_rider 08-02-2002 03:51 PM

Jet Web Pages and Such
 

Originally posted by lov2flyrc
Site was created for them at no charge.
Todd

And how much did you pay for the new turbine when you made the switch? (JK)

Doug Arnold 08-02-2002 03:57 PM

Jet Web Pages and Such
 
Dan and I are one day going to get our web site started. what is some good easy to use software that we can get..what software are yall using to teach yourselves.

P.S.----Eddie, I think your site is cool. when we get ours going you can teach us how to do the movies.

Doug A
Austin Gang

-JC- 08-02-2002 04:09 PM

Web design
 
Hi Dough,

I do everything in Microsoft Frontpage 2002. If you want a simple website you can use one of the many designs already included with the program. That way you ccan make a website in a couple of hours. It may not be the most acvance web design program on the market, but it is simple to use.

lov2flyrc 08-02-2002 04:19 PM

Jet Web Pages and Such
 

And how much did you pay for the new turbine when you made the switch?
No discount there! Not even bought through JC USA, was purchased through Planes Plus and was purchased before I touched JC's site!

Dont expect any discounts, just offered to help....

I am using Dreamweaver 4 and Adobe GoLive 6 to create the sites only because I want to learn the software. Easiest software to use is Front Page 2002 and templates found on the web although the above mentioned software can be self taught fairly easily too.
Todd

tamjets 08-02-2002 04:24 PM

Re: Websites
 

Originally posted by vfr_rider2000
Tam,

Trade schools are great places for help with websites. I do web design as a hobby. I don't want to start a war about who's site is better than who's.

Mike

I'm not bashing you or try to make a website war. I just want to point out what is going on at our business position.
Yes, website can be easy to learn if the person can have little spare time to learn.
Like Todd said. Website had to be updated at least once a month.
The cost to update that had to take out from profit.

Brg,
Tam

Tom Antlfinger 08-02-2002 04:34 PM

JetCat site
 
Nice job on the JetCat site, but for the past week or so, the central panel is compressed so you cannot view a whole frame at a time. Bad for photos of the L-39.

Just wondering what happened.

Otherwise, a great site.

Tom

vfr_rider2000 08-02-2002 04:45 PM

Jet Web Pages and Such
 
My entire process behind is this thread is being in the High Tech world everyone goes to the web for information. If your website is not regularly updated then why have one at all.

All of us would love to see websites that are regularly updated with information about kits. If you don't updated your website then the information that was posted orginally quickly comes outdated.

I would love to see all mfg do updates to include MSRP of their kits even if distributers sell them at a discount. At least we would have an idea as to what they cost. Along with what accessories are available from the mfg.

Everyone can think of 1 - 5 mfg that haven't updated their website that they don't even bother going to it since the information is useless. I can even think of a few that have updated them then never went back and added content where they had "Under Construction" for certain pages.

I apolojize about my ranting and raving. Back to your regularly scheduled program.

Mike

Doug Cronkhite 08-02-2002 04:56 PM

Jet Web Pages and Such
 
The only thing really required by a website is the content be updated frequently, and the information is easy to find and read. All the fancy graphics, colors, animations, and sounds are pointless if someone doesn't stay on your page to read the information presented.

It's been proven over and over you have 30 seconds at the most to capture a reader's attention before they move on to another site.

I find Tam's site quite easy to read, quick to find the info I want, and it loads rapidly. Same with BVM. It's very easy to navigate and find what I want.

I've done a lot of website development over the past 6 years, and as with many things.. its not always what you put in.. but what you leave out that makes a good website.

Doug Cronkhite

-JC- 08-02-2002 04:56 PM

Web sites
 
Hey Tam,

If you paint a Hot Spot for me I will paint your web site :D

lov2flyrc 08-02-2002 05:31 PM

Re: JetCat site
 

Originally posted by Tom Antlfinger
Nice job on the JetCat site, but for the past week or so, the central panel is compressed so you cannot view a whole frame at a time. Bad for photos of the L-39.

Just wondering what happened.

Otherwise, a great site.

Tom


Hey Tom!
May I ask what your screen resolution is?

Todd

JohnVH 08-02-2002 06:15 PM

Jet Web Pages and Such
 
Mine is same Todd. cant see all of center area anymore, used to but something changed.
Running 800x600 here

DavidR 08-02-2002 06:22 PM

Jet Web Pages and Such
 
Todd,

I am not having any trouble viewing it but I am also running at 1024x762 and on a 21" monitor at work. Only thing I see is that the page does not go all the way across my screen.

David Reid

Fly JetCat!

Oopss just tried something, Tom can you drag the frames over on the JetCat website?

bkf 08-02-2002 07:03 PM

Re: Re: JetCat site
 
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Originally posted by lov2flyrc



Hey Tom!
May I ask what your screen resolution is?

Todd

Yep Todd: You blew the frames. Keep your day job :D

Tom Antlfinger 08-02-2002 07:11 PM

JCUSA site
 
1024x768. No problem till about 10 days ago.

What does it look like on your machine? On mine, the right 1/3 of the page is empty, with everything squished to the middle with sliders on horizontal and vertical, that weren't there before.

Tom

bkf 08-02-2002 07:17 PM

Re: Re: Re: JetCat site
 
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Originally posted by bkf


Yep Todd: You blew the frames. Keep your day job :D

Ok: Here it is at 1024

Gordon Mc 08-02-2002 07:32 PM

Jet Web Pages and Such
 

Originally posted by dcronkhite
The only thing really required by a website is the content be updated frequently, and the information is easy to find and read.
Just to be contrary... ;-)

I'm gonna differ with you slightly on that...

If I can buy the same (or similar) product in multiple places, and only one of those places has online ordering, then that's the one that will get my business (even if they do cost a bit more).

That's because convenience is valuable to me, especially since I do most of my hobby purchases at a time of day when no-one's gonna be around to answer the phone to take my order.

I understand that developing a good website with on-line purchasing is not necessarily cheap, but against that one should presumably balance some additional facts:

(1) Taking the time to put certain types of info on a website can reduce certain costs (a FAQ is a perfect example of this), and

(2) That website may get the company additional sales that they would not otherwise have received (there's a lot of companies that have gotten purchases from me just because a Google search found their website!)

Clearly the above will not apply when you want to buy something that is single-sourced - but for multi-sourced items I belive it applies.

"It costs me too much" could also be used as an excuse why some businesses would not accept credit cards (for the same purchase price, the store gets less money out of a credit card transaction than a check or M.O.) - but a lot of businesses would lose out on significant sales if they did not take credit cards, so they balance the cost of the CC transaction against the increased sales. Seems to me that (within limits) the same argument could be made for websites with on-line ordering.

The above isn't meant as a bach against any companies that have no, or limited, websites - I'm just giving an alternate point of view to the ones posted so far.

Later,
Gordon

lov2flyrc 08-02-2002 08:58 PM

JetCat site
 

Originally posted by bkf


Ok: Here it is at 1024

Still working on the frames and site layout! The site is a far cry from what is was and I am working on it as I can find time. No plans to quit my day job, nor am I a web designer...Just helping out a company that apreciates the effort... Your welcome to help Ken if you think you can do better :rolleyes:
Todd


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