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KFalcon 09-25-2004 12:14 AM

What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
I am in the market for a new Tx. I currently have the 9 Cap and like it but I would like to have more options. What are you using and why do you like it? The 10X has "flight modes", does the Futaba have anything like that?

Thank you for your time.

MLaCoste 09-25-2004 12:21 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
Kenny, my friend-

I had a 9CAP, but sold it for my 10X. I really liked the 9CAP, but needed the extra channel...

Once I started using the 10X though, with JR servos and equipment.........I now know why the slogan is "Feel the Difference" you definately can! :D

Regards,
Mark LaCoste

ps-What time are you heading up here on Friday?

lex2bits 09-25-2004 12:28 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
JR XP9303. Has everything. Intuitive, user freindly, menu driven, great manual.

Lex :D

KFalcon 09-25-2004 12:35 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 

ORIGINAL: MLaCoste


ps-What time are you heading up here on Friday?

Really depends on if I can get the day off or not. Hopefully early. Do you work that day?

MLaCoste 09-25-2004 12:49 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
If I want to.......it's good to be the boss..... :D

KFalcon 09-25-2004 01:28 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
You need another partner?:D:D

Romeo-Alpha 09-25-2004 02:13 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
9ZAP has flight modes and has since before the "WC" versions. The extra channel may or may not be an issue depending on your configuration. JR plays nicer in a buddy box situation as long as both transmitters are exactly the same model (SX, etc.) (things like master retains trims, etc.) I find Futaba programming a bit easier but it may just be years of Futaba experience.

AirPac Models 09-25-2004 02:18 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
Go for JR 9X (XP9303) !!

JetflyerJ 09-25-2004 08:19 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
Kenny,


Grauner MC-24 Kenny does it all and than some

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfi...44/Db86423.jpg


The worlds most advanced radio control system! The MC-24 combines German ingenuity with Japanese quality.

Designed by Graupner, manufactured by JR.

The MC-24 features:

32 bit CPU running at 17MHz
High-speed precision A/D converter
SUPER-SOFT-MEGA-ROM system with a 4 Mbit memory
Dual function rotary encoder using 3D Rotary Select programming technology
40 Model Memories
6 Flight Modes per memory
12 Channels
Aircraft or Helicopter specific menus
Online Help

Also if its too big and bulky, You can get their new one which is the same size as the 10X or 9Z .http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfi...44/Ni22531.jpg
But the big one is really the way to go as it's super comfortable and super fast service from Modellbau USA. I just got my second one after 4 yrs upgraded to the Gols edition.


Regards............ Johnny Hernandez

Gordon Mc 09-25-2004 08:36 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
I have both the JR 10X and the Futaba Wc2. I prefer the 10x by a wide margin. The Multiplex and the Graupner have some really neat features too, but to get them you have to put up with a TX shape and layout design that just doesn't work for me.

Gordon

MiragePilot 09-25-2004 09:29 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
The Multiples Royal EVO 12 is also worthy of consideration. All 12 channels are fully proportional, free TX software upgrades-downloadable from Multiplex, shift selectable TX so you can use it on any JR/Futaba PPM RX (not compatible with PCM RXs), synthesized TX module option available, and the Multiplex powerful programing....all in a more ergonomically friendly case (compared to the pizza box cases of the past). The EVO 12 Synth TX is available for almost half the cost for the 9ZAP/10SX equivalent and has 2+ more fully proportional channels than the JR/Fut. Take a look at the EVO before you put any money on the table.

Peter

Romeo-Alpha 09-25-2004 09:43 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
The specs on the EVO look light years ahead in terms of flexibility to either JR or Futaba; BUT, if you fly thumb/forefinger you need to try before you buy. My fingers were too short to reach the sticks (too far from the case edge). I guess a tray would solve the problem but I am still stuck with the mental image of the scantily clad young lady offering "Candy! Cigarettes!" when I contemplate trays...

Gordon Mc 09-25-2004 10:30 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 

ORIGINAL: Romeo-Alpha

The specs on the EVO look light years ahead in terms of flexibility to either JR or Futaba; BUT, if you fly thumb/forefinger you need to try before you buy. My fingers were too short to reach the sticks (too far from the case edge).
Additionally, make sure that you are comfortable with using the sliders -- for some reason these have been placed on the middle of the TX faceplate, so that in order to use them you have to let go of the sticks...

Gordon

JohnVH 09-25-2004 10:53 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
10X

tp777fo 09-25-2004 10:55 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
where can you get a MX-22?

John Redman 09-25-2004 10:55 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
The one issue I found with the Evo when I held it is the switches on hte side. How many times will they break off before you get frustrated? Also the fell of them on hte side was just messed up to me. I agree on the thumb forefinger issue as well, and my fingers aren't that short.

The 9WC is an awesome radio but definitely lacking in one simple area; it has 8 proportional channels and then a 9th channel which is either on or off. You can't adjust anything on the 9th channel, so for me it is pass on that. (That is why I call it the 8 1/2 channel radio)

Programming wise though it beats the 10X hands down. But I will say the 10X will do anything you could ever wnat in a transmitter and then some.

Kenny I would think you have experienced the "god I wish I had another channel" on that Hornet of yours. Should be a simple decision. Also keep in mind that there are plenty of JR reps out there for help as well as support at a meet if you need it. Plus I always have a few extra things in my box if you need them.

sirrom 09-25-2004 11:13 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
The 9Z is an excellent radio. I agree I would love to have that 10th channel but I can live without it. The features that stand out on the 9Z over the 10X are the following. 1. Synthesized receivers/transmitters. You can program any channel on the 72mhz band that you want. People have said well why would you want that and my response is have you ever been to an event where there are 4 or 5 other people on your channel? 2. Is that any switch can be assigned to any function. I had a friend with a 10X who broke his retract switch and could not fly for 10 days because he had to send it in for repair. With the 9Z you can reassign your retract function to another switch and continue to fly until it is convenient for you to send it in for repair. I know someone will chime in and say "Well just use a pmix on the 10X and you can do the same thing". My response is that why should you have to use one of your PMIX's to accomplish this and if you have used all of your PMIXES you are screwed.


Patrick.

MHall 09-25-2004 11:14 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
My vote is for the JR line. I started years ago with Futaba, then a friend talked me into the JR line when I needed a new TX. I picked up the 652 which was great for a while, then I got an 8103 which was light years over the 6 ch. and now that I have started into jets I picked up a 10X. I love it. It has taken me a while to figure out some of the programming but it is great to fly with. I also love the feel of the 10X while you are flying. My 2 cents. [8D]

seanreit 09-25-2004 11:38 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
I'm a 10x guy, but that Evo sure appears to be a hell of a transmitter, plus they've got a synthesizer available for it to swap channels.

But I'm like some of the others, small hands, and not sure a tray would work for me. Maybe if I was as cool as Johnny with that tray he has ;)

Gordon Mc 09-25-2004 11:45 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
For more posts comapring the 10X and the Wc2, check the radio forum - e.g http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_19.../tm.htm#197215

Gordon

JetflyerJ 09-25-2004 11:50 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
HI TOM,

You can get any Graupner products Right here in the US ( florida ) Modellbau USA sells the complete Graupner line, E-mail me direct and I'll direct you to the right contact person at
[email protected]



Johnny Hernandez

tp777fo 09-25-2004 12:02 PM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
Thanks Johnny will email later. I'm On the Road Again. Seems like the story of my life.

TP

JohnMac 09-25-2004 01:28 PM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
Sean,
Just to be clear, the Royal Evo is not a tray style transmitter, it's a standard format transmitter. The MC 4000 is the tray style transmitter. The number one misconception regarding this transmitter is that it is too big to be comfortable. Wrong! The 4000 Tx is 1" thick. The typical distance to the top of the sticks (wrap around distance is you like) is similar or LESS than a typical Far eastern tx.
One the other hand you get 12 fully proportional channels, and unparralleled programming capability ( I mean in a different league to the far eastern stuff). So if you need more channels and more mixing and switching capability, don't be put off by the size until you have tried it. It's a non issue.
Regards,

John.

Falcon 64 09-25-2004 04:30 PM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 
[quote]ORIGINAL: MiragePilot

The Multiples Royal EVO 12 is also worthy of consideration. All 12 channels are fully proportional, free TX software upgrades-downloadable from Multiplex, shift selectable TX so you can use it on any JR/Futaba PPM RX (not compatible with PCM RXs), synthesized TX module option available, and the Multiplex powerful programing....all in a more ergonomically friendly case (compared to the pizza box cases of the past). The EVO 12 Synth TX is available for almost half the cost for the 9ZAP/10SX equivalent and has 2+ more fully proportional channels than the JR/Fut. Take a look at the EVO before you put any money on the table.


I`ve had a MPX 3030 for thirteen years now, and have never, ever had a glitch, before it passed away last week.
I will go for a second round with MPX, the 4000 model with channel scanner.
Very userfriendly meny, logically even to people like me!

Regards

Gudmund

Romeo-Alpha 09-26-2004 01:15 AM

RE: What TX do you fly with? 10X vs. 9Zap
 

ORIGINAL: John Redman

The 9WC is an awesome radio but definitely lacking in one simple area; it has 8 proportional channels and then a 9th channel which is either on or off. You can't adjust anything on the 9th channel, so for me it is pass on that. (That is why I call it the 8 1/2 channel radio)
On my 9Z I usually put retracts on ch9 and assign it to the normal retract switch. That leaves me with 8 propo channels for the rest of the stuff. Haven't had a complex aircraft that didn't have at least one bang-bang channel (like retracts).


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