Multiplex 12Ch?????
 

I'm in the mood of getting a new radio, and need a few of you to tell me whatever you know about this radio.....? The idea of having 12 channels sounds great.....and more afordable than the 14 channel cost of the new Futaba [&:]....

Or should I overlook the number of channels and go with the JR-10X? or Futaba 9Z

Besides, at the beginning the new T14MZ was marked at Tower for US$2,300.00....I check yesterday and they are asking now US$2,200.00....What is include in that price....radio, reciever, how many servos, type, ect??? Or the US$2200 is only for radio & receiver??:eek:

Regards,

Miguel

RE: Multiplex 12Ch?????
 

the $2200 is for at least a TX, RX, batteries, accessories, and supposedly 4 servos ...

I have 2 9z radios (1 heli 1 plane) and I just bought a 10X, which i now regret, as i would so much rather have waited for the 14MZ [:o] ... the 10x is a good radio fo basic stuff, but if you want to be able to actually use all of your switches how you want to use them, and do all the whacky and wild mixes and programing that a lot of us use, JR is not that great of a radio .. I like my 9z a lot better, but unfortunately it is 1 channel short of a 10x , and the 9th ch is nonproportional ( the 9z actually does have a 10th non proportional channel that can be activated via a hidden utility menu)

I researched the multiplex 12ch, and found out that it is very functional in terms of programing options, however i had also heard of some quality issues with the new multiplex 12ch, so i opted for the 10x (my mistake here .. )

there are 2 or 3 good threads here on RCU about the 14MZ, and there is a lot of detail listed there about this radio and what so far is known about it ...



Wojtek

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Miguel, I have flown the MPX 12 channel Profi for 3 years now and I can attest to its reliability and quality. From what I understand, it puts out the strongest RF of any of the comparable radios. And having 12 channels, all independent and fully proportional, is awesome. I have a Royal Evo 12 also (with synth TX and scanner), but have not had the time to get real acquaited with it yet. It appears to be of the same high Multiplex quality as my Profi. I am very impressed with MPX gear.

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Miguel...get the new FUTABA....

Gamal....

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Woketman,
I agree. I have used Multiplex for 14 years and never hada single failure of any kind. I have had my Profi 4000 for 7 years and I have yet to see a radio that comes close in terms of capability and reliability. It runs rings around any current far eastern set. I will reserve judgement on the new Futaba system until I have seen one.
Regards,

John.

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I can't understand everyone going ga-ga over the new futaba...maybe they have not tried the multiplex. I had the chance to play around with an EVO 12ch syth... Man that thing is flexible, you can assign anything to anything (like timer to throttle stick), very easy to work through the menus and get to where you need to go. I would have bought one too, except I decided to give JR one last chance, and bought the 9303. (I'm finding the JR not as flexible in programming as I would like..the 9303 looks like it will change all that!)

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Miguelito,


Buy the new Graupner MC-24 Gold Edition. Sweetest radio out there waaaaaaayy more options than anything out there. I've been using the MC-24's now for 5 yrs after I tried everything out there and this is it, I just upgraded to the Gold Edition.


Johnny Hernandez

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I have been using Multiplex for 6 years, the last 4 years with the 12 channel Profi 4000. Because of the programming structure that Multiplex uses I can't see me ever buying an Asian radio again unless they abandon the master-slave concept and copy the Multiplex method. I also use the Multiplex IPD rx and some Multiplex servos and I have had rock solid reliability.

Bear in mind that if you are using PCM rx at the moment they will not be compatible with any other brand of transmitter so if you change you will have to buy new rx to replace any pcm rx that you have. Also, Multiplex has abandoned PCM in favour of its IPD PPM system which gives fully programmable failsafe on all channels, or you are free to choose any other PPM rx with failsafe such as FMA, Berg etc.

There has been a number of reports from the USA of faults in new Evos, generally they manifest themselves straight away rather than some months after purchase. The Evo is not built at Multiplex's factory in Germany like the Profi radios are, but in some Chinese factory like all the other radio brands.

There are two "problems" remaining with the Evo. One is that some JR servos do not like the frequency synthesiser module, I have tried it with a JR8411 digital and it is perfectly happy but apparently certain JR servos do jitter if you use the synthesiser module. They have no problem with the crystal module. The second issue affects mainly fixed wing fliers especially for 3d flying, and that is the expo values that you set are fixed for the model, you can't switch it on or off during the flight and it is the same value across all 4 flight modes.

As a rule of thumb, the Evo is not quite as powerful for programming as the 9Z or JR10, it is not Multiplex's top radio, but it does have extremely flexible programming, the option for synthesiser, automatic checking that your frequency is clear before it starts up, whole band frequency scanner, internet download of any software upgrades, stick with button switches if you fly finger and thumb, and so on. The top Multiplex radio, the Profi 4000, is simply mind-blowing in what it can do, some people say they can't hold the odd looking "pizza-box" but we have an 11 year old in our club who holds it with no problem and I have proved it requires a smaller hand than a Futaba 6exa!

H.

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That's what I like....lot of inputs!!![&:] with good replies[sm=thumbup.gif]

The "pizza box look" of the Multiplex is killing me....and one of my concern is how would feel holding that radio on hand....:eek:...I know Multiplex is excellent brand....

Juanito (jhonny:D), MC-24....wao, that's far beyong of what I'm looking for at this moment for a radio....

And the New Futaba 14ch.....well, for the price they are asking I guess that radio must come provided with an ****** ...at least.-[>:]. Sorry, didn't mean to be rude.:D

I'll keep thinking....[&:][sm=bananahead.gif] hate this.-

Thanks all,

Miguel


Reason for edit, unnecsasary language.

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Hi Miguel

Don't see what is worng with the "pizza box look" :) Of the MPX 4000. I may not look as fancy as a JR ore FUTABA. But it is not the box but what there is ind side, thats count. And it is nice and easy to clean.
And holding it in hand...well I have been doing that for the last 10 years...not a problem.

And if you have small hands...well it don't seem to be a problem for my son:D

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Miguel, DMP is correct. I too was skeptical of the pizza box when I first got it. I have flown nothing but Futaba & JR for decades (after Kraft). As soon as I flew it once, it was a non-issue. No difference to me in the feel, perhaps even a bit better. They give you three different stick lengths that you can choose from. I use real long on the right and medium on the left. Try it, you'll love it!

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I have attached a couple of photos that show it is a lie that the Multiplex pizza boxes need a tray or large hands.

The photos show the pizza box with the short (what I consider the normal thumb on top) sticks, next to a Futaba 6EXA.

The first photo shows the distance from the stick to the side of the Multiplex is exactly the same as for the Futaba.

The next photo shows the depth of the tx from stick top to rear case, that your hand from thumb to fingers has to grasp and shows it is less for the Multiplex than for the Futaba. So if any Tx needs bigger hands, it's the Futaba! Since no-one says the Futaba is a tray Tx or needs big hands, they are fibbing outright when they say the Multiplex needs it.

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I have had them all... and I think the Profi 4000 is just a better design..

I mean you can pop the back off and see how clean the inside is... This is
like ONE chip.. Unlike JR and Futaba where there is crap every where..

The probem with the Profi 4000.... Even my new VTOL does not need all those
channels or programing power. When I get a new Radio soon I will just
get a Futaba 9CAP... its $350 and all I need..

Also if I knew that a more expensive radio would be safer I would get it no problem..
There is no data anywhere that says $1000 radio fails less than a $350..

Eddie Weeks

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I don`t know how it is today, but some years ago the MPX stated teir MIL Spec for the 3030 and 4000.
I wonder wich other brands can cope that?
The receivers also have a very high sensitivity, only 2 milli Volts....
This is a gain in range..
Just think about it, Miguel.
I`ll get my new 4000 tomorrow, and this will be my second radio on 15 years..
Both MPX.

Gudmund

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Miguel,
When I first saw the prototype of the Multiplex 3030, the predecessor of the 4000, I assumed it was just a mock up. When they told me that this was the finished article I thought that they were joking. IT was soooo bland.[:'(]
Then I read what it could do.
I was astounded!
Then I bought one.
I was even more astounded.
Then they brought out the 4000 and I asked what more could I possibly want than I had from my 3030? They told me. I was (you guessed it!) astounded. I bought it there and then.
Now I don't care how it looks. Sure it doesn't have the "Bling" of the far eastern sets but I was not looking for "Male Jewelery" at the time. IMO anyone who needs to have a set with "Bling" must surely be under endowed in a certain deptartmet!:D You dont look at the set when you are flying and the looks contribute nothing to functionality, reliability or range.
As for how it feels due to its size, as Harry C has stated this is a non issue. But don't believe Harry or me, Put the short sticks on and try it.
As for the MC24 suggested by Johnny, this too is a great radio and has a few features that the MC 4000 does not have such as the help function. But for the ultimate in mixing and switching capability the MC 4000 is currently unparalleled.
Try It, you'll like it[8D]
Regards,

John.

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Are my Futaba style RX's usable with the 4000 ?

Where can I get a good price on one ?

Marc

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where do you get the 4000's from? How much are they?

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Any PPM receiver is usable with the 4000 as long as they are the same shift as JR. For opposite shift (which IIRC Futaba is) Ernie Pritchard (and perhaps someone in England) can do a simple mod where he installs a switch to select shift. I have used both positive and negative shift PPM RXs with my 4000 and they work perfectly. However, now that IPD MPX receivers are available, I would use nothing less for high dollar models.

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Woketman,
We don't have the issue here with positive or negative shift, there is only one standard.
I agree with you regarding the IPD Rx's Rock solid. What is more I ranged checked my ES a week or so back with the 12 Channel Synth IPD. Now I am used to good range but this just went on forever. Engine running was the same as engine off. Friends have reported the same range. I got bored of walking in the end. Exceptional.
Regards,

John.

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Miguel,
One more to take a look at is the Graupner MX-22 I saw it being used last week and it looks like a very sweet radio. Basically a 10X case with a mouse type scroll for the menus and 11 channels with a 12th being a on/off. You may find it on the Graupner site.
http://www.shop.graupner.de/webapp/c...&show_cat=5564 If you were thinking a JR 10X but wanted more channels you may want to check into the MX-22. Its nothing like the tray MC-24. Just another option.
mark

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MX-22 , thats a good one. It is basically a 9X case with the Software from the Graupner MC-22.
And if you are looking for a tray type radio, the MC-22 offers almost the same capabilities as the MC-24,
but at a much lower price.

Lars

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I decided to wait for the 14MZ..:eek:, so help me God wit the $2.2K:(

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Where are you guys getting the IPD 12 channel synthesized Rx's? I could use a couple!

Thanks in advance,
Eric

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Boy, I wish I knew!
I have had one backordered with Tower Hobbies since Feb of this year and have yet to get one......
IMHo, I don't think they exist yet on 72 MHz....

Peter

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Peter,
They have only been available in the UK since mid summer so I guess you are right. 72 mHz should be any time now. Worth waiting for believe me.
Regards,

John.