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LoneRanger 09-05-2002 01:47 AM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
Has any one done this conversion?

seems like a good one to do. Could some of you give me some sound advice on such a process....?

I am planning on calling EJF directly tomorrow to see what they say.



thanks, LoneRanger

jks 09-05-2002 02:13 AM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
If it were me, I'd look first at the wing area of this plane. If its not similar to other .45 size planes, I'd forget it. This size is usually in the 500+ sq. in. range.
Will the fan fit?
Is there room for fuel (16 oz. on up) close to the CG?
Will the thrust tube (3.75" exit dia.) and tuned pipe fit?
Is there enough inlet area to support the fan?
If so...........
Go for it.
Jim

LoneRanger 09-05-2002 12:52 PM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
I swore I have seen someone that had acualy done this converson before, any one else with some idea's???

Comments, suggestions, idea's, refferals, additions, corrections, etc.... much appreciated!

LoneRanger

Rahlberg13-delete 09-05-2002 02:30 PM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
Danny Starkey, the king of .21 powered jets, did a conversion of this to a .21. There's an article about him and his .21 planes (with lots of picts of the .21 rafale) in RCJI a few issues ago. He's been known to get 150mph+ out of his .21 jets.

Email him at [email protected] or check out his website at http://www.dannystarkey.freeserve.co.uk/

Good luck!

Russ
[email protected]

LoneRanger 09-05-2002 03:17 PM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
Rahlberg13, I sent him an E-mail thanks!!!



can any one else shed some light on this subject?








L.R.

LoneRanger 09-06-2002 11:48 PM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
Can ANY ONE ELSE HELP??????????????







ANYONE ???




L.R.

EASYTIGER 09-07-2002 01:41 AM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
I remember danny starkey's one, the 21 was really crammed in there. Doubt if a 45 will go. Think, also, about where the fuel will go...

MiragePilot 09-07-2002 04:05 AM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
The EJF Rafale is WAY TOO SMALL for .45 DF, period. Laugh off the project and look for something bigger for your .45 DF unit.

Peter

LoneRanger 09-07-2002 11:52 AM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
Wing area on thier Rafale is 300 sq inches or somewhere there about..... Soooooo scratch the .45 size!


now, about the .21....... :D


L.R.

cyclonejack2002 09-08-2002 04:32 AM

EJF .21 Raf
 
Been there done that I have an EJF Raf. with an OS .21 buggy engine in a homemade fan (thinking of kitting the fan) witn mini SringAir retracts....Speed about 140mph
If you want some pics and more info drop me a line
Art

birdseed 10-24-2002 10:48 AM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
Ive got the midi fan size one at the moment. DOnt know what diameter the 45 size fan is but the 90 mm midi fan it was designed for fits nicely with no excess room.
There wouldnt be room for fuel over the cg. The ducting would be in the way.
THe AUW is 5.2 pounds with awing loading of 33oz/ft
The rafale i believe is larger inside, thats why that may have worked.

THere is the aeronaut rafale- 50" long and 40" wingspan for two 90 mm fans. The 45 might fit in there??? ( AUW 8-9 lbs)

rpmtech 10-24-2002 12:33 PM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
Way too small, I have one that I converted to pusher prop .40
havent tried it yet though. Neet little jet, but front end is way out of proportion.

birdseed 10-24-2002 01:33 PM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
Sorry all ive got the EJF F18 - in my excitement i thought i read f18 not rafale Doh!!


rpmodeltech, is it the aeronaut rafale aor the EJF rafale you have.

Just for everyones information- i looked into the rafale a few months back and was told the wing wasbeing redesigned for a new airfoil ( apparently that was happening for six months before that also, so i wouldnt hold your breath if you want one.

rpmtech 10-24-2002 01:37 PM

EJF Rafale .45 DF conversion Question
 
EJF... my only and last try at EDF's Used all the expensive stuff too.


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