Ok I am a beginner in jets...
 

I have flied years ago, but instead of going back to props I have decided to go straight into turbines blinded so to speak. So peps what I need to know is what is a good jet to start off with, I need a turbine and a radio.

Hit me with it?

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This could get expensive for you..... :D

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Where is Plumstead ?

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PLumstead is in greenwich mate south east london!

I know its going to be expensive, but I have my heart set on it, I am also thinking about buying a century pgasser I have to decide though.

So come on fellas and ladies help me out what jet and engine and radio servos gyro etc etc....

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to start with babby boomerange with jetjoe turbine keep the cost down radio futarba ff9.servos any thing from 20 pound to fourty pound each nice simple set up to start with .all the stuff from the u.k so any problems .dont have to wait for any thing.just one point of view

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whats the manufacturers for all that gear? Or stockist?

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A few places to look
www.amtjets.com
www.motorsandrotors.com
www.alshobbies.com
www.jetlinemodels.co.uk
www.wren-turbines.com
www.avonds.com
Everything for the inexperienced and the topgun pilots but maybe you should go find
your local jet flying field and see what it involves before you jump in.

My first jet was an Avonds F15 the one in my avatar and by the time i got to the flying stage
it cost me roughly £3500 (probably cost more but i gave up counting)

Have fun
Brian

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I have to agree with the post about getting the Boomerang or even a Facet. It's a good sport type jet that appears to be very forgiving. Engines are another choice and I will tend to go with something a little better and more proven designs. Airplanes do tend to go but a turbine will stay with you for quite some time due to the expense involve. Do go out to the field where other turbine fliers go and ask questions. Ask a lot of questions! then do more home work by researching products and reviews. Probably the best information though will come from the guys out there doing the flying. They've already learned quite a bit about this area of the R/C world. Probably been through a few failures and successes which you can probably benefit from. Heck you might even run into a chap who's ready to sell a good turbine fairly cheap because he or she wants to go to something else.

Another thing is to read through the jet forums posted here. Myself as a new turbine flier who just qualified for my AMA waiver this past weekend, have learned a great deal about this part of the R/C world. I've been flying R/C airplane for almost 25 years and seen and done just about everything there is with R/C with exception of turbines. There were many things that I didn't know and I have learned a lot and still continue to do so. I've also been able to contribute on several occasions due to my background. So it work both ways.

Welcome to the turbine world. Take your time and do your home work. Above all ask questions like what you did here and listen to the experts.

Cheers

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Boomerang Intro is the best flying starter model you can buy. It is very easy to land which is probably the most important thing for a beginner.

The model will cost you £400, use the fixed landing gear as supplied (you don't need the complications of retracts at this stage) buy a PCM receiver if you don't have one (A must for turbine operations) You will need about £150 for servos / extension leads, a large receiver battery
and most importantly don't try to fly it yourself the first time.

Find a club where turbines are flown and get an EXPERIENCED pilot to check over and fly your model.

I would buy aWren 54Mk3 turbine it suits the model very well, is light and it's made in the UK so service / help / repair is close at hand.

Finally read the Boomerang ARF thread on this forum and you will get a flavour of the things you ned to know about the model and gear installations. Be prepared to spend about £2,000 to get in the air.

John

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Since you're going to be flying in the UK, where about do you think you'll be flying this model and are there turbine models already operating at your local club field? What type of surface will you be flying from? Does your club have any weight restrictions?

It's worth checking out your local club first before making any commitments to purchasing a model, turbine, etc. Speaking from experience, I found that my own club had a weight restriction of 7Kg. Such weight restrictions can be imposed by the local Air Traffic Control and not abiding by them is effectively contravening the Air Navigation Order and you could find yourself liable to prosecution and without insurance.

Are you a member of the BMFA? Do you hold a 'B' certificate for fixed wing? Whilst not mandatory it makes life a lot easier as there are various events held by the JMA and others throughout the year that are worth attending. The trouble is you won't be allowed to fly without a 'B' certificate at some (most) of these events and you may find your club will not permit you to fly a gas turbine model without that bit of paper.

To fly turbines at my local club field I had to ensure that it was OK to do so with my club, pass my B test and then come up with a model that would come in under 7Kg (15Lbs) and capable of flying from a grass strip. The model that I fly at my club field is a Graupner Harpoon and is powered by a JetCat P60 and is fitted out with all the recommended servos but with SpringAir retracts and wire struts - also had to replace turbine ECU battery for a Lipo to shift that last bit of weight. Motors and Rotors sell the complete setup and are extremely helpful. I went for this setup as it provides for a nice big model which is easy to see and slows down nice for landings.

Phil

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Hey
Im in Noth London (East Finichley)
Your best bet is to goto Ali, at Als Hobbies and
have a word with him, as for clubs, Phoenix is your
best bet!

(Oh also, Phil, when the time comes, can you
get me in Phoenix[8D])

Read This:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=1109761

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Sorry Volkan, I'm not a member of Phoenix. I'm a member of St Albans Model Aero Club which isn't the same thing.

Phil

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ahhh, i swear you where:eek:.
Im at Watford Wayfarers.
Does St Albans Model Aero Club accept jets?
(acctully what i dum question that was!)
Is there a sound limit, and do you have any info (webpage maybe)

RE: Ok I am a beginner in jets...
 

barreoty, I am also new in this area. I bougth a composite-arf kangaroo a year and a half ago. Since I was out of home for a year, now is when I get the time to start finishing it. During that time out there in OIF, I was doing my homeworks every time I had. Do what the pals here said. Ask as many questions as you can and Try to find a jet flier at your club, he sure will help you with the process. Flying a speed prop plane with flaps will help you to get to the filling. You have to think ahead of the flying model or Ouch!!!

Regards