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Tommy
these guys know I have not had good luck with slow sticks. The best one was Zed's slo stick, I had just met him and within one battery I had folded the wing. Before it happened I said "Hey yall watch this!" It was priceless.

As far as what I have learned about the JWM:
build a plane you can document. Book documentation does not seem to be good enough. I feel this is the major draw back to this competition. Their interpretation of the rules makes competeing with a 50's era jet virtually impossible. If you can find a restored or a museum piece, you can do fine. They like stamps on everything, 3x5 color chips with an enclosed receipt from the U.S. gov. was not good enough for 2 of the 3 static judges. I wish they would specify what needs to be on this stamp:eek: (for the record they ended up giving everyone 10's for color after some event organizer discussion)

Lets just say I am going to become good friends with some of our local ANG for my plan B. My current plan A is to attend some airshows.....but that means a possible trip to france, oh well. The wheels are in motion for the next project.

I will also make it a point to practice the European flying style! No more knife edge passes for me...;)

Don't get me wrong, im not complaning about their rules. This is just like any other competition, you need to tailor your game to be above the rest. Basically I may end up building a plane I have no real interest in, just to better my chances of having good documentation. I feel documentation is that important!!

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Those are some great tips.

One question, a little off but must be a lesson too. Did anyone find out why one plane kept on getting flamed out in the Tarmac but not in the Grass? What was causing the Static Electricity?

Turbulence

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I honestly dont think there is a definitive guide to what lessons were learned from this years comp. There were so many unexplainable variables that i really dont know what to do for next time. My first knee jerk reaction would be to say static is the most important. But even then on close inspection of some of the models high up in static scores you would see things such as live hinges instead of scale, exposed hatch latches, mirror smooth non textured surface detail, 2 dimensional panel, rivet and panel line detail (In some cases drawn onto the model in Pen) It was quite painful to watch some absolutely world class models that in my opinion had some of the best craftsmanship I have ever seen destroyed in the scoring. I have learned that the 3 view is king. You need to find a model that is as close to the 3 view you present as possible. Despite all that was written in documentation guide lines about the pictures having more power for static marking than 3 views on the day some planes were marked with very little use of pictures what so ever. Also Get the guidelines section where it tells you not to spend too much time on color authenticity and mix epoxy on it. This year the only way to score good marks in color first time round was to have the paint technician who painted the full size there in the room with a paint gun full of the paint the actual aircraft was painted in. he would then have to paint a color patch which would have to dry and then be held against the full size aircraft under the correct light. Of course all of this would have to have a stamp on it.:D
I left Hungary confused, and disappointed. Confused at the scoring and disappointed that i did not do better. Having returned home I have had time to reflect on the two weeks events and I am glad to have gone and met old friends and made lots of new ones. Where this competition lacks in consistancy it more than makes up for in camaraderie.
I have to say a special hello to the US Team. A lot of people had varied expectations about their return into this compete ion, and how they would fit back into the IJMC group. From what I saw your teams performance on and off the flight line was commendable, and you certainly took a lot of people by surprise with your attitude and performance.
Oh and I cant go without mentioning the Israelis;) Avi you are a star.

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As an avid thread follower and looking at all comments so far, I come up with a suggestion, whether feasible or not.....

It firstly seems that just being there was the most important thing, and the international comraderie, insurmountable. Fun was had by all. Brilliant.;)

The judging seems to have caused some confusions, and aspects focused on that might have been more accurate in terms of scale to model, colour and the like, but ignored craftmanship, hence the lack of differentiation between pre moulded detail and self built.

Maybe and with two years to go it can be considered, a senior judge from the IJMC visits each participating country, or their team leader comes to him, whatever, and briefs the team/leader on the aspects for judging.

That way it will be consistant, people will understand the focus and can build their models in that manner, utilising their skills to that aspect.

Either that or the modeller brings the full size to the competition.........:D

And despite the excellent fun and frolics, after all it is a competition, this brings out the best in challenges, maybe the hobby needs to understand what the challenges are being set that we would be apparently as modellers be striving toward.

Whatever, I hope to be their in 2 years just to savour the moment, and I might even have finished my T-33........

Gazzer

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Gazzer

Make sure everything is stamped, the Germans are very keen on stamps and it seems as if we are playing to German rules:D

John

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Stimmt Ich konnen eine grosse stampe haben.

Hence the old expression..... where are your papers:D

Forgive me, it is meant purely in jest, I am giving a kit to Toby in mitigation!!!

Gazzer

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Ali,
I agree with your post. The tips I wrote is where I will be starting from. Good point about the three view.

Tommy,
Im glad you liked the "Invereted Falling leaf", not sure how many Sarbres really did that stunt. I hear it will be a scale option in Ireland. It's funny, from the flight line I could hear that guy sitting next to you! I also heard, "It's going it!" Next time with smoke on.....

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Dustin,
Here are a few pics I had taken at WJM, turn up the volume. Take care down in Florida and keep the big guy straightened out for us.
See ya soon
Tommy

http://www.qcrcc.com/gallery/gallery...&box=&shownew=

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There are a lot of things that could be changes to make the JWM run more smoothly and fair. I am sure that the IJMC will receive several recommendations over the next couple of weeks.

I would like to see two flight lines instead of one. It is simply too much time to spend on one contest when you have to fly one plane at a time. Heck, at Top Gun they have four planes in the air at the time, and run the same number of pilots over a four day event. I think the event would be more attractive for modelers to attend if they did not have to take two weeks out of their schedule. The argument is that they do not have enough judges. Maybe five judges are not really needed per flight line. Would three do the trick? I'm sure it would

Why even bother doing static judging in the open class? There is no "builder of the model" rule, so you can show up with the best money can buy. I'd suggest allocating the static time to the model in the individual class, so those guys who build the jets they fly get a more fair judging. Make the open class a pure contest on flying skills. BTW. I am not putting down the efforts in open class. I just don't see the need to have some one else's work static judged.

Drop the gyro allowance except for rudders. It should be about who is the best pilot, not who has the best technology

Make simple rules for documentation. A legal published 3-view. Color or b&w photos of the subject or an artist rendition. Document colors via official paint guides and judge craftsmanship based on what the modeler did, not the kit manufacturer. Make it a maximum af maybe 6 pages. (Some pilots showed up with something that best could be described as a book) Take a look at the TG rules for static. They are tested, simple and proved very fair and consistent.

My $0.02