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DCM 09-12-2006 08:43 AM

10 X programing
 
My Crusader needs flaperon and flap operation. I would like to program flaps to control lending edge,the small trailing flaps, and the flaperons. The only problem is while the ailerons move at normal speed I need the flap movement of all the surfaces to move slow using servo slow. I hope I explain this well enough for someone to understand. I'm using a 10X.



David Hudson

www.dcmodelshop.com

Doug Cronkhite 09-12-2006 09:57 AM

RE: 10 X programing
 
Unfortunately I don't think you can do that with flaperons. You can get them to deploy slowly, but then your entire motion of the servo will be slowed.

Chris True 09-12-2006 10:15 AM

RE: 10 X programing
 
I am able to slow the flap function only (aileron action works at normal speed) of flaperons with the 9303. You do it by slowing the flap channel and not the aileron channel. Since the aileron channel is mixed with flap it moves at the same slow speed when the master flap is moved.

JSF-TC 09-12-2006 10:29 AM

RE: 10 X programing
 
David,

Get an MX-22. You can set the transition time between flight modes, while retaining high rate primary controls. I use it on my L-39 to slow down the flap deployment, and when I go to full flap I get 1/4inch of aileron reflex and the elevator retrims, all over a period of 4 seconds.

A very powerful transmitter that has more capabilities than the 10X.

Paul

DCM 09-12-2006 11:00 AM

RE: 10 X programing
 


ORIGINAL: JSF-TC

David,

Get an MX-22. You can set the transition time between flight modes, while retaining high rate primary controls. I use it on my L-39 to slow down the flap deployment, and when I go to full flap I get 1/4inch of aileron reflex and the elevator retrims, all over a period of 4 seconds.

A very powerful transmitter that has more capabilities than the 10X.

Paul


Thanks Paul, nice transmitter. Right now I'm locked in on the 10X. If I can't do it by programing I can do it with mechanics.

David Hudson

DCM 09-12-2006 11:08 AM

RE: 10 X programing
 


ORIGINAL: Doug Cronkhite

Unfortunately I don't think you can do that with flaperons. You can get them to deploy slowly, but then your entire motion of the servo will be slowed.


That's what happen when I tried. I was wondering if I missed something.


David Hudson

Chris True 09-12-2006 11:41 AM

RE: 10 X programing
 


ORIGINAL: DCM



ORIGINAL: Doug Cronkhite

Unfortunately I don't think you can do that with flaperons. You can get them to deploy slowly, but then your entire motion of the servo will be slowed.


That's what happen when I tried. I was wondering if I missed something.


David Hudson
Try the slow function on the flap channel only. Of course I am using a 9303 so they may have perfected the software since the 10X came out...

DCM 09-12-2006 11:49 AM

RE: 10 X programing
 

ORIGINAL: Chris True



ORIGINAL: DCM



ORIGINAL: Doug Cronkhite

Unfortunately I don't think you can do that with flaperons. You can get them to deploy slowly, but then your entire motion of the servo will be slowed.


That's what happen when I tried. I was wondering if I missed something.


David Hudson





Try the slow function on the flap channel only. Of course I am using a 9303 so they may have perfected the software since the 10X came out...



I slave the aileron to the flap. Servo slowed the flap side but it affected ( slowed aileron also).
I'm fairly hardheaded I'm going to keep trying until I know or I get smoke.



David Hudson

AMA234 09-12-2006 11:55 AM

RE: 10 X programing
 

I slave the aileron to the flap. Servo slowed the flap side but it affected ( slowed aileron also).
I'm fairly hardheaded I'm going to keep trying until I know or I get smoke.



David Hudson

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Hey, where is all that smoke coming from ??!![sm=drowning.gif]

Terry Holston 09-12-2006 02:47 PM

RE: 10 X programing
 

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I slave the aileron to the flap. Servo slowed the flap side but it affected ( slowed aileron also).
I'm fairly hardheaded I'm going to keep trying until I know or I get smoke.



David Hudson

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When the smoke exits, it is really hard to put back.........................

DCM 09-12-2006 03:02 PM

RE: 10 X programing
 


ORIGINAL: Terry Holston


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I slave the aileron to the flap. Servo slowed the flap side but it affected ( slowed aileron also).
I'm fairly hardheaded I'm going to keep trying until I know or I get smoke.



David Hudson


When the smoke exits, it is really hard to put back.........................
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I got hold of Redman, I'm going to let him smoke the shop TX. :D


David Hudson





S_Ellzey 09-13-2006 07:58 AM

RE: 10 X programing
 
Hi David,

Give this a shot.

Ail1 -> ail
Ail2 -> aux1

turn on flaperon mix

flaps -> aux5

set servo speed on aux5 to suit, and mix aux5 -> aux1. I think this might do what you are after. You might have to mix aux5 -> ail also, but I am hoping that the flaperon function will handle that for you. good luck.

Steven

DCM 09-13-2006 08:01 AM

RE: 10 X programing
 


ORIGINAL: S_Ellzey

Hi David,

Give this a shot.

Ail1 -> ail
Ail2 -> aux1

turn on flaperon mix

flaps -> aux5

set servo speed on aux5 to suit, and mix aux5 -> aux1. I think this might do what you are after. You might have to mix aux5 -> ail also, but I am hoping that the flaperon function will handle that for you. good luck.

Steven




Thanks Steve, I'll give it a shot.


David Hudson




rcumember77 11-18-2006 09:55 PM

RE: 10 X programing
 
May I ask what the outcome was with this?

DCM 11-19-2006 02:10 AM

RE: 10 X programing
 

ORIGINAL: rcumember

May I ask what the outcome was with this?


The 10X only has servo slow so all function tied with the slowed servo is locked at the selected speed. JR needs to have a " function slow" and that would have worked fine. On a flaperon, slow flap movement was needed with normal speed ailerons.
What I was getting was slow servo on both functions.
I got around the problem with a simple double belcrank device on each flaperon.


David Hudson

www.dcmodelshop.com


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