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Hey Nick,

You ready to come over to the dark side yet? Better to be making history than reading about it.;)

Sounds like you all had a great time out there, wish I could have been there. I am guessing I will semost of you guys at Florida Jets next year. Unfortunately for me, my other brother from another mother "Timmy R" is having his final event of hte season the same weekend as I-Hobby, so I won't be able to make it.[:@]

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c/f,

The point may be mute but, I believe that SPEKTRUM holds the patent on the the workings of the Spekrum 6 which is marketed by Horizon.................Everything is negotiable!:)

Tailwinds,

John

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Where did you get that info? I heard a number much higher than that. I forget the number, but it was so high that it could never possibly be a feasable issue?

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Regardless of what they hold the patent on, it is slowing down progress!!! There are a lot of companies/people out there that could have taken giant leaps forward months ago if it weren't for all the red tape. This new system is a perfect example: for some reason, Spektrum thinks people will set their 14MZ's 10X's, 9303's and the likes aside to fly with a converted 7202 with far less capability. No thanks. Not to mention that this system will likely be in the $400 range, compaired to the likes of Extremelink, which will have plug-and-play modules for most popular HIGH PERFORMANCE transmitters that people ALREADY OWN!!! And the cost will likely be half the $400 tag for the Spektrum system with a second-rate transmitter. My guess is that it will only be available as a complete set, just like the DX6, with servos that people will likely never use...I know that's the case with the S75's that came with my DX6 - still sitting in their origional packaging. And the only reason I did finally break down and buy one was because of interference problems with a micro pylon racer, which doesn't need a lot if mixing or aerobatic setup functions, or rudder expo, since it doesn't have a rudder. Still, I hate having to set my 9393 down... I'm holding out for something better, and I hope Extremelink is the answer.

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Then you heard wrong.

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Looks like Horizon will make an offical anouncement at http://www.ihobbyexpo.com/ in a few weeks. I hope that http://www.xtremepowersystems.net/xtremelink.php is there too, and we have all the competition that it will take to make this new technology global and available to all flyers. 7 channel is not going to cut it for me. A plug and play solution for the 9C and or a new and completly redesigned high end JR system is what I will need.

Good job horizon!

I look forward to hear first hand from guys as they get back from superman!

Joe Kelley

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I got to fly Chris's Bandit with the spread Spec. Worked flawlessly. Can't wait for mine! (Chris I won't make fun of your shoes anymore) Some of you don't know this but Chris and I were separated at birth and have finally found each other after all these years. He was Originally from Il. as I was. We were paternal twins. I eat a little better than Chris since he bought that new Cirrus! Lots of mac and cheese for The Huhn and Ribbe family's. He's been trying to catch up on his flying skills but still has a way to catch up to his Bro!!! At one point Chris stood behind me in an effort to get close, the antenna was between my back and Chris with the airplane straight out in front of us with no problem. Witnessed by Bob W. 5' high passes from the windsock to the end of the runway no problem Just my observations !
Tim

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I wonder if the DX7 (as I believe it is called) is a true 100% digital system (ie - no PPM-to-digital translation)? If so, then it would have almost zero latency between stick and servo (basically just down to the RX pulse to the servo). If that is the case, then it would be one feature that nothing else has at this point.

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:)

Speed!

Have Fun....
Look for us at I-Hobby, or arround the web at that time....

David

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Thanks David...http://image.rcuniverse.com/forum/image/s45.gif

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I'm not sure, but I really doubt it. From the pictures it looks like they are using a 6102 type tx for the computer part and putting a spektrum tx module on it. I have done this myself with the 6102, and latency really isn't a big issue. The original spektrum seemed a little slow, but since doing the transplant it feels pretty much like any other radio.

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It is definitely not a converted 6102 and does appear to have some of it's own design features, but it is still a limited performance transmitter and I will not waste my money on it. Sure, my DX6 feels super-solid, but I have over half a dozen park flyers that are still on 72 because the DX6 is HIGHLY lacking in programmability. I am quite sure others who already own $600+ transmitters feel the same, and I am even more sure that if competing companies come out with a plug-and-play system, then Horizon is going to have a surplus of DX7's collecting dust in the warehouse.

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I spotted for Chris Huhn flying his 'Custom' Bandit using the Spektrum and witnessed absolutely no glitch with the high G maneuvers.....now my calling and his double landing is another question.
Anyway. this has got to be the hottest ticket since turbines borrowing none!!!!
Roger

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"Auto start" has gotta be hotter?

Dave

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I have gotten several inquiries about this system. I have now talked at length to Bob Wilcox since he got back from Superman (FYI Bob and I developed, tested and presented a 2.4 GHz spread spectrum, 4 receiver/antenna system to the AMA several years ago).

Anyway, I am taking a wait and see attitude. Given what I think will be Horizon's very competitive pricing and their strong brand, I am sure dozens if not hundreds of these systems will be sold within weeks of launch.

We will all know very quickly if they work in every installation, in all weather conditions, in the presence of other 2.4 GHz emitters (phones, blue tooth headsets, iPods, Wifi stuff, etc). That is my take.

Regards,

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Just a clarification on the DX7 from the man who created the Spektrum systems....

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...36&postcount=9

It uses 2RX's (just like the 6) with two antennas.....but they have the ability to separate the antennas...

Sounds like a winner, hopefully the software in this system will be much more robust and the AR6000 RX's can be used on both systems.

Mike

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From Paul Beard ( http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...36#post6187636 ):

"It has only 2 antennas and uses 2 frequencies"

"Yes, the antenna rotates, the receiver has end pins, the transmitter has a timer and yes, there's no PPM decoding."

Sweet!

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Of course since the RF module takes direct digital input and not PPM, I imagine it would be much harder to transplant into another Tx the way the DX6->6210 was done.

Also interesting to note is the graphic on the DX7 which says something like "Model Recognition System". My guess is that the Tx automatically maps the Rx GUID to a model which means you don't get to make the mistake of trying to fly aircraft X with Tx model Y. This is just speculation on my part, but sounds like another good idea from Spektrum to me.

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That would be awesome as well....

Life is good!

Mike

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Tim,
That picture really scared me when I first saw it..and then I realized that was you in front, not me. Tracy must be making that Mac and Cheese often.

Glad you liked the locked in feel. I can hardly wait until people get a chance to try this radio for themselves. Granted, a 7 channel radio is not the ultimate statement in Jet radios, but for those that didn't get it, this was a statement about the technology working in something other than parkflyers. Details to follow on the radio next week when we officially announce.


Yes, the new radio supports the AR6000 Rx quite well.

Chris

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It's kind of hard to get away from the stigma of the ama and the spektrum radio. We've been beat over the head about the spektrum and how you're never under any circumstances to put it in anything other than a parkflier... You wont be allowed to fly at any fields, your plane will wreck because it wasn't designed for it and the ama will deny your insurance. Although I'm sure this is a modified version, after all of the hoopla i still associate sketrum with parkflier ONLY!!!!

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The AMA has been in the loop with the DX7. They are very supportive of new radio technology. I feel sure the system will be supported in the field.

To be clear, the DX7 is NOT a parkflyer system.

David

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Boy....time flies. I was there the day you guys gave the presentation. Actually, it was the same day bunch of JPO officials visited Muncie for turbine related meeting.