JMP Starfire II composite kit
 

Does anyone remember the fellow that had a JMP Starfire II Composite kit for sale recently?
Thanks,
Len

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I have a friend that has one he might want to sell.
It is built except for ducting installation.

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I was looking for a NIB kit, but I would be interested in the price and whether or not it has plug in wings.
Len

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Guys, keep any discussion about buying/selling in PM's please as per RCU rules.
Thanks

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HI all, I just read the rules and see advertiser's are allowed to advertise their products once a week/ one add per thread/ no pics.
Rcpete
PS, I completely disagree with this kind of attitude, other forums have many discussions on products and where to get them.

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The Starfire II C does not have plug in wings. The rest I will PM to your when I hear from my friend :)

RE: JMP Starfire II composite kit
 

I understand the IIc was all composite and had a slightly larger wing - are there any other differences between it and the YA Starfire. Bob, do you think this plane would be a good candidate for a EDF conversion?


Joe

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That is exactly the purpose in my attempting to obtain the kit...to make it an EDF!
Please PM me any responses regarding a source as I have been reprimanded that this became a wanted/for sale thread.
I apologize if I have gone out of bounds on the rules...back to lurker status once again...
Sort of negates the actual intended use of RCU though as I recall it at its inception...
Oh well, while I try to abide by them, rules are not my area of expertise...
I will go back to building and flying jets...
Len

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Len, I live beside Tom Cook here in Kansas City. I have 4 Starfires and IIc's I would recommend you take a Starfire and make a foam wing like the IIc. It will give you the benefit of being lighter and the larger wing area. You can just substitute the wings from a std. kit. I might have a set of cores in the basement you can have. Pls email me at [email protected] if interested.

David

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Hi,

What powerplant do you plan to use? Do you want the JMP composite one for ease of assembly? I imagine the Yellow one could be built out lighter...

RE: JMP Starfire II composite kit
 

Shaun, I have started a modified design for a Starfire-like Electric version. Think light weight wings the size of the Starfire IIC but laser cut balsa. Cooling ducts being designed in. The Dynamax has been modified for electric. I am mounting it on the test stand to start measurements. It uses a Neu Motor with a Castle Creations 110 ESC. The batteries are being evaluated. I hope to get this flying in the spring. Will keep you posted.

For me, I think this combination stands as a good a chance as any for an electric version of this design. I have 90% of my flights on this plane. An awesome design with no bad habits.

All the best for a great holiday season,

Dave

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Dave,

Thanks! Sounds exciting. Keep us posted!

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Hi Dave,
What I have done so far is to order and receive a Starfire II from Shaun in San Diego, order and soon to receive a Schubeler DS 94 (120 mm EDF) through a local fellow via Tam so the EDF unit is plug and play with a Neu motor and Castle 110HV ESC. I am presently building out the kit, but I was looking to also get a IIc as my current flying Starfire II is getting old and will need to be replaced soon. It has a PST J600R and flies well, but needs the newer pipe design etc. When I looked at the amount of work to move the engine and the put in the new pipe and rebalance, it seemed to me that a new IIc wopuld fit the turbine version better. The EDF version is being built from the ground up as an EDF rather than converting the old one. I think I can get it on the tarmac here about a pound lighter than the 12 LB turbine version, and it has about 3000W or 4 HP! I would be most interested in your EDF conversions! Anyway you can PM me regarding the IIc if you would like to part with one...PUHLEEEASE!!!
By the way did we not meet several years back at the Toledo show in Tom's booth? I seem to recall your name...
Thanks,
Len

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Looks like his name was George. See the URL below for contact information.

Good luck

http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=343589

RE: JMP Starfire II composite kit
 

Much appreciated Guys! I am in contact with George and another fellow that may have what I desire.
Thanks,
Len

RE: JMP Starfire II composite kit
 

I just picked up an old JMP Starfire kit and trying to find out if Tom Cook published an instruction booklet. Just sent him (Tom) an email. Do you know if one was published?

Thanks....

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Yes, quite possibly the most detailed instruction manual in the jet market that I have ever seen! However; as I understand it, Yellow AIrcraft bought the rights and molds etc. to the Starfire II and as such Tom and JMP would probably not be able to help you. See what develops as there are many out there that can help.

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Thanks...

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marvmattporsche

I have a Starefire IIb kit. I can scan the manual and email it to you or make a copy and mail it to you.

RE: JMP Starfire II composite kit
 

Sent you a pm....

Not sure which version I have...see photos.

Thanks...

RE: JMP Starfire II composite kit
 

Hard to tell from the tiny parts photo, but it would appear to be an original Starfire II glass fuse and foam wings. The IIc is the composite version of this plane with a slightly larger wing area. there was no IIb as I understand it, only the II and IIc. There was of course the original Starfire, but it had the stabs coming out at the base of the fin and it had square inlets. A very appealing plane in its own right, but not the most efficient design by the time Tom put out the II series.[img][/img] If I did this right a shot of my original Starfire should be attached...

RE: JMP Starfire II composite kit
 

Len, based on your description of each model...I believe it is the Starfire II. The inlets are not square and the stabs attach at the center of the fuse.

RE: JMP Starfire II composite kit
 

Marvin,

The IIb has larger flaps than the IIa. I have owned both and they both fly well. If the plans show both aileron and flap servos under one wing hatch, then it is a IIa. If you have seperate hatches for flap and aileron servos, then it is a IIb.

The rear wing spar on the IIb is moved forward to allow for the flap to go all the way to the wing root.

Here is a pic of my IIb wing plan.
My manual is for a IIa. Tom may not have revised the manual for the IIb. At any rate, the scanned manual is over 260 MB of files. I can try to email it or I can send you a hard copy by snail mail.

Just let me know. PM me your email or your mailing address.

In the pic of the 4 Starfire IIs, you can see that from left to right they are IIb, IIa, IIb, IIa. It's a good thing all the pilots have different colored helmets or they might have been hard to tell apart in flight.:D We only tried formation flying a couple of times.

RE: JMP Starfire II composite kit
 

Thanks for clearing that up Gary! I guess mine is a IIa since it had the narrower flaps and common servo bay. Given my experience flying it, I actually narrowed the flaps on the new IIb kit I that have here, as the flaps are as effective as I would like even at the narrower dimension. I always thought IIc was just the designation for the composite and never realised there was a difference in the flaps!
Thanks again,
Len

RE: JMP Starfire II composite kit
 

Just one more addition, the IIc wings are nearly straight /perpendicular to the fuse, on the trailing edge and not swept like the foam wing versions. Giving the IIc addional wing area over the earlier foam wing versions.