A10X still available?
 

Is this still available? Any new version?

Thank you

RE: A10X still available?
 

call Wagner at www.RCjetmodels.com he has them in stock.

RE: A10X still available?
 

A P-80 will require extensive mods to the mount and center wing section to fit...then, a bit of weight in the nose to compensate... Not a great choice of motor for this airframe.
We stopped selling the A-10X Quite some time ago, Give Wagner a call.

RE: A10X still available?
 

My son Louie has an A10X that I shoehorned a P-80 into. Todd is right, it does require a good deal of modifications, but it will fit and if you're an experienced builder, its not hard. I was careful to get everything as far up front as possible and ours did not require any additional nose weight. As far as flying with the P-80, its actually flys very will with it. The guy we bought it from had a RAM 500 in it and it never seemed to get up on the step. With the P-80, you can take off in 200' with full fuel and go straight up. Flight times with a 50 oz tank are around 6 minutes. If he's set on the A10X, then its not necessary to sell the P-80...

On the other hand, the A10X is not really the ideal first jet. It flys well, especially with lots of power, but if you get it slow, it WILL snap, and it tends to bounce on landings unless you GREASE it in. Its been a good trainer for Louie, but I'm moving him up to an F-15 and I think he'll find it easier to land than the A10X.

When you modify the wing center section to fit around the P-80, it will be a great time to reinforce (i.e., take out and replace with REAL plywood) the main landing gear mounts.

Bob

RE: A10X still available?
 

I have one RTF if you're looking for a turnkey model...........interested?

Rich

RE: A10X still available?
 

Listen to what he said,this thing snaps real bad.I had one and now I have a babby boomerang.




Frank

RE: A10X still available?
 

If I had to do it over again, I would have went with a boomer instead of the A10x, but the Ram/T-500 is plenty of power.. here is mine taking off from a very rough grass field with a FTE 500 turbine.

http://members.cox.net/mugenkidd/a10xwarbirdflyin.wmv

RE: A10X still available?
 

I do find the "Snap" issue a bit interesting... I have quite a few flights on mine and never experienced the snap? How slow do you need to get and was this with flaps up, down or either way? I did quite a bit of stall testing on this plane when it was first introduced and never had it depart as some have described...
Just curious...
Todd

RE: A10X still available?
 

It will spin if you slow it down flaps down and up. It will duch roll on final if you go too slow. It snaps if you give enough elevator in turns.
Personal experience.
This is the Xtreme jets one.

RE: A10X still available?
 

I´m totally agree with you.
Mine comes very slow for landing, Flaps approx 70°, no bad characteristics. I have nearly 100 flights with the AX 10 or EasyJet.

Christian

RE: A10X still available?
 

Have you checked the incidence of the wings to confirm they are identical? Have you checked incidence of the wings to stab? Sounds like perhaps you may have a wing panel or stab out of incidence? Not uncommon with some low end Asian ARFS which could explain why some have had bad performance and others not....

RE: A10X still available?
 

Check with Xtreme jets...

http://www.x-tremejets.com/twe/produ...?products_id=2

RE: A10X still available?
 

There is a reason that they are not widely available. The reasons have been talked about in detail on other threads. I wouldn't use this as a trainer.

RE: A10X still available?
 

Todd,

I think that the snap issue is mainly a function of elevator throw. I initially setup Louie's using some things I found on here and I believe George's article from RCJI. With high rates, I could get his to snap with just elevator in almost any configuration. Since then I've been backing off of the throws and its gotten much better. However, Louie did snap it out of a loop once recently when he pulled full up on the bottom and was a bit slow. Luckly he was high and could recover, but it certainly surprised him.

In addition, when it bounces on landing, it will sometimes drop a tip - which is not unusual, but it is much more likely do to so, and more radically, than other aircraft like a KingCat/Bobcat. Like I said, Louie is moving up to an F-15, and I think he'll have a much easier time landing that than the A10X. That's the only part of the jet flying that he's still working on - that last flair and touchdown - but we all can relate to that. Actually, the last time we went out to fly, he did four landings on the A10X and I was talking him down through the first three. On the last one, I had turned around to check something else out and he had gone ahead and landed and that was actually his best one - so I think I'm going to just shutup and watch from now on... :D

Bob

RE: A10X still available?
 

Like Todd I had much success with the a-10x. I flew the living crappolla outta mine. I never tried tight loops with it, but it is not surprising that it would. Try some tight loops with a mustang or spitfire, they stall right out like it their job.

My A-10x was miles easier to land than my F-15/f-18/f-16/f-4/Bandit/Kingcat.

The only bad thing about it was the center section. It could survive a modest touchdown, but with brake application, it would break in all sorts of places.

The only change I would do is add crow on the ailerons. I would say this is not a bad trainer. If you can fly a mustang than this is a piece of cake.

Raf

RE: A10X still available?
 

This is what I find strange... Several guys say they tip stall. Others, like myself, never had this issue? Bob, have you ever checked incidence on yours to see if things match up? There must be a variable here we are missing for some to have issue and others not?
Todd

RE: A10X still available?
 

I never had an issue with the tip stall either..... but I never could totally fix the issue with my leaky retracts, that and having to keep rebuilding the center section is what I found most annoying.... A couple of weeks ago I flew a buddies boomerang XL... If I only new then what I know now...my god that thing flew great!!!! I never even attempted knife edge or a snap with the A10x, but with the XL boomer it felt so light and true that on the first flight I did great 4 point rolls, loops with snaps on top, hammer heads, split s's, felt just like a patter plane..... not sure if this makes since but the boomer felt like a trainer-pattern plane.... and the A10x felt like a heavy warbird, that mixed with the fact that the retracts were crap is why I would totally recommend a boomer (although I never flew the small one).

RE: A10X still available?
 

I must admit that I have not checked the incidence of the outer wing panels. The next time I get it out, I'll take a look...

Bob

RE: A10X still available?
 

Mine tip stalled badly on the first flight, but it was because of too much throw and a slightly aft cg

I put quite a few flights on mine before it rolled in on me on takeoff at the Austin jet rally a few years back.

RE: A10X still available?
 

"The only change I would do is add crow on the ailerons"

Can you tell me how much crow you put on the A10X ???

regards
Jean Philippe :D:D:D

RE: A10X still available?
 

I also used crow and my A-10X was a sweetheart on landings. No bouncing either. For crow setup try 1/8"-1/4" up ailerons with some down elevator (1/16"-1/8") to begin, then make adjustments according to your plane and flying style.

Good luck.

RE: A10X still available?
 

John,

Do you mean the A-10x, you didn't buy from me. ;) :D

Raf

RE: A10X still available?
 

Chris, Sam is the guy to talk to about the 10X, good luck in May!