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Spartan Missile 02-25-2008 07:09 AM

Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3427696.ece

Didnt look too bad to me ?

Boomerang1 02-26-2008 04:26 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
A 28 ft high low pass in a Cub may be fine but a 28 ft high pass in a plane that's 60 feet tall is probably a little 'flamboyant".
Obviously his (ex) boss has the same view! - John.

Spartan Missile 02-26-2008 08:14 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
Maybe if he had done it inverted it would have been grounds for dismissal :D

Synthetic 02-26-2008 08:17 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
I guess that puts an end to the myth, "There are OLD pilots and there are BOLD pilots but no OLD BOLD pilots!

Jim Cattanach 02-26-2008 08:36 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
The guy should have had more sense. One tiny error of judgement & many people, not to mention an expensive jet up in flames.
He deserved the boot.

erbroens 02-26-2008 10:43 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 


ORIGINAL: Synthetic

I guess that puts an end to the myth, "There are OLD pilots and there are BOLD pilots but no OLD BOLD pilots!
Just the opposite: the saying is confirmed as this poor guy is not a pilot anymore for any company....

in this times, you can´t screw anything badly... as in a couple of hours the video will pop out in youtube.

Synthetic 02-26-2008 11:08 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
If you'll read the article you'll see it says he is one of the most experienced pilot this company has.

I would say he has already made it to the "old" pilot stage.

The article also states he is in his mid fifties and one of their most experienced pilots.

[The 322mph fly-by was cheered by onlookers, and the pilot, who is said to be one of the most senior aviators with the airline, later toasted the flight with champagne.]

[ Mr Wilkinson, who is in his mid-fifties ]

hmjets 02-26-2008 11:16 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
Is this legal???:D:D:D

erbroens 02-26-2008 11:24 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
Nao nao e! (risos).... como voce pode ver, qualquer um pode michar fora do vaso! ;)

Saudaçoes, Enrique.

Jim Cattanach 02-26-2008 11:27 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 


ORIGINAL: Synthetic

If you'll read the article you'll see it says he is one of the most experienced pilot this company has.

I would say he has already made it to the "old" pilot stage.

The article also states he is in his mid fifties and one of their most experienced pilots.

[The 322mph fly-by was cheered by onlookers, and the pilot, who is said to be one of the most senior aviators with the airline, later toasted the flight with champagne.]

[ Mr Wilkinson, who is in his mid-fifties ]

If the idiot had crashed, I don't think the champagne corks would be popping. They would most likely be trying to count the $$$ it would cost them when the ins co. washed its hands of any claim.

hmjets 02-26-2008 11:40 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
é isso tudo,como se diz por aqui,mijar fora do penico.:D:D:D

erbroens 02-26-2008 01:14 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
Aqui tambem se diz assim, mas eu escrevi errado mijar! :)

at+,Enrique



GrayUK 02-26-2008 02:30 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
322mph......oh yer :eek:

Synthetic 02-26-2008 03:36 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
Yee Haw!!! [X(]

Tom Cruise got away with it in "Top Gun" !!! [>:]

flyexperimental 02-26-2008 06:38 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
I would of payed to be on that plane.I put my life in strangers hand everyday I drive down the road in my car I rely on that stanger to keep it on his side of the road.peaple are so close to death everyday and do not even know it. I don't see anything wrong with it,but that is my opinion,and may not be the opinion of the persons on the plane.

Synthetic 02-26-2008 06:43 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
You mean the ones screaming, "Oh _ _ _ _!!!!" Heheheh :D

causeitflies 02-26-2008 10:07 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
He didn't get fired for doing the pass, he got fired for not getting proper permission. He probably needed a low level high speed waiver.

sweetpea01 02-26-2008 10:30 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
Exactly....if you read the article this type of pass has been done by him and this plane before (several times by the way it reads).

Infact, only after the video was put online and people voiced concerns did the company admit there was no "waiver" and fired the pilot.


Of course we are only hearing one side of the story. I bet the company encouraged the flyby, but when push came to shove they didn't stand behind the pilot and used the fact there was no waiver to save face.


Does anyone know who's responsiblity it was to get the waiver? The pilot or the company?

Synthetic 02-26-2008 10:46 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
The pilot would say "The Company" and the company would say "The Pilot"! ;)

Dave Burns 02-28-2008 04:46 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
Hi all,
If that pilot got the sack, what did this one get
Dave
http://sorisomail.com/email/1361/air...-portugal.html

digitech 02-28-2008 05:21 AM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 


ORIGINAL: Dave Burns

Hi all,
If that pilot got the sack, what did this one get
Dave
http://sorisomail.com/email/1361/air...-portugal.html

Krikey!
now you opened a can of worms again:D
i am sure this guy got a lapdance out of it!.
and now we will get lots of comments from ex airforce guys who fly civil jets.;)

David Gladwin 02-28-2008 04:42 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
Wouldn't want to disappoint you Sandor ! The A310 pilot received widespread deep criticism from the professionals for what was seen as downright dangerous performance with ZERO margin for error, remember one cannot evven see the wingtips on a large jet. Very skilled but VERY dangerous.

The 777 flyby was not at all dangerous, IMHO. Straight and level at about 180 knots (see the flap selection, looks to be about 5) blown up by the media to 300 plus mph !! After all, the runway is level and unobstructed, there is a dead accurate radio altimeter giving height in small increments, hardly dangerous and anyone in charge of a large airliner should be able to do it with ease and safety. Sure there is a LITTLE risk as the machine is quite close to the ground , about 40 feet, but hardly dangerous.

There has to be more to the sacking than meets the eye. No one with half a brain is going to do such a flyby with the CEO on board if he thought it was unsafe, and the CEO was seen drinking champagne with the Capt after arrival in HKG. He was sacked later, go figure !

A sacking for the flyby, something of a CX tradition on departure of a new aircraft, seems something of a severe overkill after the Captain of a 747 written off (nearly) in BKK due, according the official accident report, to serious errors of basic airmanship and flying skills, kept his job !

Regards, David Gladwin.

PS The new CX livery got more media exposure than the best PR man could have dreamed of, and my guess is it will do them no harm commercially, whatsoever, in fact just the opposite ! And all for free !

Woketman 02-28-2008 04:50 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
What should I be seeing here?

http://sorisomail.com/email/1361/air...-portugal.html

It does not work.

hmjets 02-28-2008 06:16 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
Hats off to captain Cesar Brito,great pilot[sm=thumbs_up.gif][sm=thumbs_up.gif][sm=thumbs_up.gif][sm=thumbs_up.gif]

Woketman 02-28-2008 06:51 PM

RE: Tsk tsk, boys will be boys (pilot sacked)
 
Never mind, I got it working now.


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