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obyvatel 09-15-2008 01:21 PM

what airfoil for 1/7 mig 29??
 
hello what kind of airfoil to use in wing of mig 29?

swansons 09-15-2008 06:18 PM

RE: what airfoil for 1/7 mig 29??
 
The following is a list of almost every airfoil used by MIG except the MIG 29.

Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-1 Clark YH (14%) Clark YH (8%)
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-15 TsAGI S-10 TsAGI SR-3
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-17 TsAGI S-12 TsAGI SR-11
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-19 TsAGI SR-12S (8.74%) TsAGI SR-7S (8%)
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-21 TsAGI S-12 (4.2%) TsAGI S-12 (5%)
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-23 TsAGI SR-12S (6.5%) TsAGI SR-12S (5.5%)
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-25 TsAGI SR-12S TsAGI SR-12S
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-27 TsAGI SR-12S (6.5%) TsAGI SR-12S (5.5%)
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-3 Clark YH (14%) Clark YH (8%)
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-31 TsAGI P44M TsAGI P101M
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-7 (I-221) "NACA-234" "NACA-234"
Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-9 TsAGI IA10 TsAGI IV10

You can go to this web site for more info: http://www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/ads/aircraft.html

Of course these are the actual supersonic airfoils that the full scale planes use. Probably not applicable to the sub-sonic R/C Models.
Don't think this will help you much, but at least it will give you a start.

John S.

Ron S 09-15-2008 07:01 PM

RE: what airfoil for 1/7 mig 29??
 
Good luck on finding much more than this... I've been trying to find coordinates for a TsAGI SR-5S for a while, with not much luck. I even emailed TsAGI from their website. [:o]

Ron S 09-15-2008 07:26 PM

RE: what airfoil for 1/7 mig 29??
 
Well, maybe I have information for you...

According to my copy of Jay Miller's Aerofax on the MiG-29, it lists the wing airfoil as a NACA type 64A airfoil, 6% tip and root airfoil thickness, of biconvex configuration. The biconvex part throws me off a bit - I wouldn't think the wing is biconvex. If you were short on information, you could probably conclude the airfoil may be similar to a 64A006 airfoil (symmetrical).

In the same book, it calls the Htail and Vtail out as a NACA 64A004. It mentions the Htail is thickened at the tip to 4.8%.

I wonder if some of the TsAGI airfoil designations are actually of NACA origin? [8D]

Of course, if you are requesting an airfoil used on a specific existing 1/7 scale model, you'd want to talk to the model mfgr then.

obyvatel 09-16-2008 07:39 AM

RE: what airfoil for 1/7 mig 29??
 
hello Ron S.
TNX to all for lot of informations.
Do you know the parameters of camber that biconvex NACA type 64A airfoil 6%? Found in net one model designed with biconvex airfoil, but there was no info about the family and number of profile. Mig was designed in 1/7,38 scale, max thickness 40mm at about 30%, no info about camber. From my calculations it seems to be airfoil with 7% thickness but that's all what can I "deduce". Have no info is that config flyable, etc. So I dont want to experiment with such a important think :).

Ron S 09-16-2008 09:13 AM

RE: what airfoil for 1/7 mig 29??
 
I suspect the "biconvex" info mentioned in the Aerofax book is incorrect. A true biconvex airfoil is one that has a radius for the upper contour, and also the lower contour - also known as a lenticular shape. All NACA airfoils I know of are not biconvex. I would suspect they used a symmetrical section 64A006 airfoil, with no camber. Anyway, the full scale aircraft creates it's own camber, by deflecting the LE flap and TE flap. Using strictly a 64A006 as the airfoil is not unusual. Either way, I'll see if I come across any additional info on the wing airfoil, other than the Aerofax book.

obyvatel 09-18-2008 10:50 AM

RE: what airfoil for 1/7 mig 29??
 
Maybe anyone of MiG 29 owner could add photo or draft of the airfoil of existing model, maybe photo of root rib.


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