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WhoDaMan 11-08-2008 11:38 AM

Shiping prices
 
Please explain:
This is for info only, I do not want to raise any hair and or piss anyone off, I just would like to know why it cost 450 bucks to ship one plane to the U.S. And FlyEagel is sending a 1/5 bird for 160 bucks

seflyer 11-08-2008 12:02 PM

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I here ya, shipping puts a real damper on selling stuff. maybe I scrape up some cash and take that panther off your hands and pick it up to[sm=thumbs_up.gif]

Kevin

uncljoe 11-08-2008 12:07 PM

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Dave
My swag is that they; Flyeagle have a volume discount,with one of the shipping company's
Semper Fi
Joe

invertmast 11-08-2008 12:29 PM

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I highly doubt it would be THAT big of a volume discount. My guess is they are probly making enough profit on the kit price to justify a lower shipping rate to increase sales. I had a 2m pattern plane kit shipped from miami, FL to virginia and that was $160 via UPS. So i dont see how they could send a 1/5 scale jet for the cheaper.

MaJ. Woody 11-08-2008 12:31 PM

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From what I understand, the cost is more like $450 to ship a large container is 4 days from China but when you are charged $150 shipping with a kit purchase some of that shipping money is already factored into the price of the kit.

bevar 11-08-2008 12:33 PM

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I can tell you why. First off...there is no "volume discount" per say...with the jet manufactures. It goes like this:

Manufacturer sells an F-15 for $750 and then charges you $450 for shipping (The real DHL shipping price by air BTW..more or less).

Manufacturer sells the same F-15 for $1050 and then charges you $150 for shipping.

Guess what? in the end...you still spend $1200. Manufacturer B marked up the airframe and then claimed "cheaper shipping" for the jet.

That's pretty much it.

Beave


bevar 11-08-2008 12:35 PM

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Also, Fedex Ground charged me $180 to ship a 1/6 scale F-16, NIB from Florida to California...so in truth...there is no way on God's green earth that the true shipping by air from China to the U.S. would be $150.

It's all a "mark up" ploy.

Beave

WhoDaMan 11-08-2008 12:37 PM

RE: Shiping prices
 
So when I got my Skymaster kit was it shipped by container or plane, If container why the steep price. Why the 450 bucks

Dave

trioval00 11-08-2008 12:49 PM

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sometimes price in shipping will change when shipped to a residence. I just bought the Boomerang XL at their sale price. GREAT DEAL.

I had it shipped to a friends place of business. shipping was much less then if I had it shipped to my home....

There was 3 of us here that bought the XL's. we asked if we could get a discount on shipping cause thewy all were shipped to the same place at the same time. but we could not get a lower price... so the thought we had on bulk shipping did not work, but then again we did get the Boomerang XL at 33% off regular proce...

Mark

invertmast 11-08-2008 12:53 PM

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Well i know for certain that it costs more than $450 to ship a "container". I inquired earlier this year about have a LCL (less than container load) shipped from South Carolina, to melbourne Australia. Come to find out, the size of the stuff i had to ship (full scale BD-5 airplane) it was cheaper to ship it in a seperate container. The price on shipping it from port to port was $1580 and this was back in jan of this year. So there is no way they can ship a container of kits for $450.

WhoDaMan 11-08-2008 12:57 PM

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Hi T:
No I am aware that it is way more for a whole cotainer, I was saying a container full of planes and yet still cost 450 bucks

Dave

Shaun Evans 11-08-2008 01:05 PM

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Hi,

It costs us around $375-$400 to ship an F-15 ARF by freight inside the U.S. by Yellow Freight. We've found cheaper ones, but with much higher incident of damage. We get lots of complaints about the price, but we don't mark up the shipping or charge a 'handling' fee. It is what it is.....

invertmast 11-08-2008 01:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: WhoDaMan

Hi T:
No I am aware that it is way more for a whole cotainer, I was saying a container full of planes and yet still cost 450 bucks

Dave

ahh ok.. nows i understands. haha yea i agree.. $450 to ship something here in the states is a bit overkill. Especially using UPS. hell i better get 2 kits shipped for $450 b/c i know UPS is going to ()*# up atleast one of em :D

rhallgarth 11-08-2008 04:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: YellowAircraft

Hi,

It costs us around $375-$400 to ship an F-15 ARF by freight inside the U.S. by Yellow Freight. We've found cheaper ones, but with much higher incident of damage. We get lots of complaints about the price, but we don't mark up the shipping or charge a 'handling' fee. It is what it is.....
I had a YA F-18 twin in the original crate shipped to me from El Paso for under $200 and the deal was kit + shipping through an ad on this site and it was shipped by Southeastern Frieght Lines to NH from a business to my residence and that kit has a one-piece fuselage. Both boxes arrived in one piece and in perfect condition. A friend is shipping me an Avonds F-14 JHH glass fuse from North Carolina and it cost me $225 to ship it almost 1/3 the distance with the same carrier that delivered it to me.

If anyone can figure it out let me know because that is wierd.

Doesn't FEIbao ship containers of kits?? That might be the way to do it. Another issue is box size. Oversized boxes are charged differently and that could be the reason. If the fuse is in two pieces the box can be shorter which costs less.



trioval00 11-08-2008 04:53 PM

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As I posted before i has a Boomerand XL deleivered 2 days ago. I noticed on the shipping invoice the weight for the 3 Boomerang XL kits was 571.5 lbs.... I questioned this to my friend who's business it was delivered to. he explained that they charged for that weight because of the over sized boxes, 6 boxes in all and only weighed 50 some lbs... but was charged for 571.5 lbs.... so yes larger boxes do cost much, much more.....

mark

uncljoe 11-08-2008 07:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: trioval00

As I posted before i has a Boomerand XL deleivered 2 days ago. I noticed on the shipping invoice the weight for the 3 Boomerang XL kits was 571.5 lbs.... I questioned this to my friend who's business it was delivered to. he explained that they charged for that weight because of the over sized boxes, 6 boxes in all and only weighed 50 some lbs... but was charged for 571.5 lbs.... so yes larger boxes do cost much, much more.....

mark
Mark
IMO,Most likely they(Shipping co.s) are charging for the cubic feet of feet the boxes take up. They figure "X" pounds per cubic ft. Cu ft rather than actual weight is greater and they charge that rate. One must remember they are in business to MAKE $$$$$$$$$$
Semper Fi
joe

rhklenke 11-08-2008 07:09 PM

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I think that paradigm is standard for shipping - i.e., there is a maximum size for each weight and if your package is larger than that, you get charged as if your package "weighed" the higher amount. I have shipped two jets and both times I was charged a higher than actual weight because of the size...

Bob

invertmast 11-08-2008 07:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: rhklenke

I think that paradigm is standard for shipping - i.e., there is a maximum size for each weight and if your package is larger than that, you get charged as if your package "weighed" the higher amount. I have shipped two jets and both times I was charged a higher than actual weight because of the size...

Bob
+1 with that one.. UPS and fed-ex go by this.. most "freight" companies i have used though take the size and weight of the container and charge for the actual size/weight of it. I dont think i have have ever had one charge me a "dimensional weight" shipping charge.. but i've been charged a 12% fuel surcharge [:@]

trioval00 11-08-2008 07:32 PM

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as for the shipping, Patricia used to send the Boomerangs, were quick and delivered the boxes with ZERO damage.

BAX Global. Has anyone else used them?


Mark

invertmast 11-08-2008 07:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: trioval00

as for the shipping, Patricia used to send the Boomerangs, were quick and delivered the boxes with ZERO damage.

BAX Global. Has anyone else used them?


Mark

i've bax global a few time shipping stuff to australia.. never had any problems out of them, and the prices were reasonable.

uncljoe 11-08-2008 07:41 PM

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Mark
My BVM F4 kit was shipped by BAX Global. Good service & Zero damage.
SF

Shaun Evans 11-08-2008 09:00 PM

RE: Shiping prices
 


ORIGINAL: rhallgarth



I had a YA F-18 twin in the original crate shipped to me from El Paso for under $200 and the deal was kit + shipping through an ad on this site and it was shipped by Southeastern Frieght Lines to NH from a business to my residence and that kit has a one-piece fuselage. Both boxes arrived in one piece and in perfect condition. A friend is shipping me an Avonds F-14 JHH glass fuse from North Carolina and it cost me $225 to ship it almost 1/3 the distance with the same carrier that delivered it to me.

If anyone can figure it out let me know because that is wierd.

Doesn't FEIbao ship containers of kits?? That might be the way to do it. Another issue is box size. Oversized boxes are charged differently and that could be the reason. If the fuse is in two pieces the box can be shorter which costs less.




As I said, we've found cheaper companies, too. For my personal use, Forward Air has been fine. When we ship a lot of our ARFs, though, it's a different story. A hand-built and painted kit needs to get there undamaged. If we have, say, a 10% incident rate with a less expensive courier, and they tend to NOT PAY OFF on claims; then we're going to have to find a better alternative. Yellow Freight has damaged stuff for us, too, but far less often and they're good for it if they do.

Ultimately, the buyer has the ultimate power in this regard: If the shipping is too high, they buy something else or go pick it up. Down the line, that'll get the manufacturers to figure out a "Plan B".

I've had more than one customer complain about the high shipping charge on our ARFs, but they ultimately either pay or they don't. Dave, for example, paid a lot for the shipping of his Y/A F-15. It was the exact same amount I paid for mine, which was too high IMO, but that's what they charge.

WhoDaMan 11-08-2008 09:11 PM

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Hi Shaun:
I agree 100%,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but if skymaster is shipping say 25 kits by boat it can not come to 450 bucks,,,, True/False

Dave

The reason like I said is I just ordered FlyEagles 1/5.5 F-16 and it was 160 bucks form the same country to my door

RCI/Skymaster 11-08-2008 09:52 PM

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There is a 100.00 increase worked into the price of all in stock kits from skymaster-USA. This is for Customs, Taxes and container shipping fees.

Then we charge UPS/Freight shipping charges to the customer from skymaster-USA. It is still cheaper than paying shipping directly from Skymaster.

We are working on kepping all kits in stock so that shipping is cheaper for our customers. We also have a large selection of parts and accessories that we stock, again for fast service and inexpensive shipping.

I know shipping cost is a big issue for alot of people. Skymaster kits are shipped in strong thick boxes lined with plywood and packaged very well. We strive to make sure are kits arive in exelent condition and if there is any damage we replace the parts ASAP.

invertmast 11-08-2008 10:26 PM

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$3400 MAX for a container full of kits.. thats pretty cheap as i'm sure you've got to be able to fit atleast 3 dozen or so kits in the container. But even so, it seems this cost should already be part of the kit cost seeing how their is a "skymaster-usa". So it seems to me that the only shipping to be charged to the customer should be the cost of shipping from the skymaster-usa warehouse to the customer. Since the "freight" charge to skymaster-usa is now included in the base price of the kit.

Thats one reason i haven't bought alot of the planes from these chinese companies. There is no way i'm willing to pay $400-600 to have a kit shipped to me. Especially when i hear of people saying how xxx kit need xxx modifications or xxx kit had xxx problems. i'd rather take the time to build a true "kit" and know everything is right.


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