Scale Mod, F-4E slatted wings.
 

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Awesome Job,,,,,,,,,,, so if I order one can I get that done also, What a great job

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Hi all

yes, the SM F-4E with the slatted wings already maidened in Taiwan... the pilot only 16 year old from Taiwan..:D:D

merry christmas & Happy new year

Anton

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Do you have video of this plane flying with the new wing???

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I hate to be picky (well, accually i don't), but the kinematics are off on your setup.
The angle of the inboard moving slats are pretty far away from the real thing, and the outward slats do not extend forward at all, they only pivot around the 4 hard points...
Nice to see someone taking a shot at them though :-)

Regards
Hank

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Miniflyers, just wondering do you post anything other than criticisms of others work; have you built anything that is as accurate to scale as you seem to require that you actually fly!! If so please shear it with us, I'd love to see some of your work. I know this may sound a little harsh but I don't recall seeing anything you've done.
Regards Wayne

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Video F14?

Juni

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Nice work amigo. pretty cool.

happy new year

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Ah jeeeze ... don't tempt fate !

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Not a lot on here makes me actually laugh out loud, but that did :)

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Hy Wayne,

i'm not trying to bash others work, i'm trying to give som constructive critique by pointing out the details that make the scale mod differ from true scale.
I know the F-4 is a difficult bird to get right, after all, i've been spending almost 2 years on reproducing it to exact scale in CAD from original factory blueprints. The slat mechanism (inboard and outboard) is attached as a screenshot. The plugs have since been milled and are currently being detailed, but please understand that i don't want to give out any further project details until its completion.

Best regards
Hank

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Hi, Hank

Thank you for the pictures with the suggested, I still have little confused about the slat mechanism for F-4,

i saw the a few pictures for real F-4, but still can not clear it, like some pictures for F-4 that slat mechanism like the F-18 or F-16, some pictures like the F-100......:(

Best regards

Anton

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to operate huge f4s on the small deck, they came out this idea!

They got the job to transform bae Hawk to T45 easily many years later.

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Did you notice any improvement in the flying qualities? Is it really effective?

Thanks
Florent

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For the land cust, runway lenght is not an issue but get the he(k spilling away as some early model experienced, they came out another idea as Hank has described.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QGBiNoyUdA

Dont forget those fences.

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Hi Anton,

it is very easy to get confused, because there have been different slat setups on different versions. The E, F and G versions had the type of slat setup i described and posted pictures of. The RF-4E had the navy type "short nose" slats (C/D/J plus FG-versions type) which drooped downwards over a hinge line on the bottom surface. Yours seems to be a combination of the two.

If you want to change or rework them and need assistance with those feel free to drop me a line.

Best regards
Hank

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Honestly, I'll keep it as look scale when extended.

The actual pivot function of outboard slat to cure spinning just not necessary in our toy world.
Remember the "f/s hornet 4 degree washout thread "

hard wings make storage handling easier too.;)

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The USAF I dont believe never used the RF-4E but rather the RF-4C, and they have more of an E model nose. The F-4C D and Recces actually had leading edge flaps not slats. Also in unison with the flaps was boundry layer control ducts that took bleed air from the engine. When the flaps are down the bleed air flows over the top of the wing creating more lift. One of the pre flight checks is to lower the flaps and run your hand down the full length of the wing leading edge and check for very hot air. I never worked on E models so cant say if BLC was used, my guess it was.

Something I have never seen on any RC Phantom is the use of the spoilers. Phantom Ailerons dont operate in the traditional sense as they do not deflect upward in a turn (only a couple of degrees) the spoiler operates opposite of the aileron.

There are tons of minor details that could be incorporated into a RC Phantom but really is impractical, weight being a major concern.
Still this is a cool mod and took a great deal of brain power and time, It looks cool and gives the jet another level of detail.

Very Well Done.

Mark

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Hello friends::)

See this video, you can see the slats moviment, are like in the F-16 or 18. No like in the AsiaSRC model or Miniflyer´s post drawings. Which is the version in the video ??? F-4N ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdXGNhKZ1LQ

See too in the video the moviment of spoilers, airbrakes and all surfaces. GREAT !!!

Regards from Spain.

Carlos.

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Cool video, just what I was talking about. I think the Narrator called them slats which I believe is wrong. They are flaps on B,C and D's they are only used for takeoff and landing where as E and G model slats are used for manuvering. One tid bit of info in AF versions the pilot controlled normal gear and flap operations, No normal gear and flap operation in the aft cockpit just emergency gear and flap extension.

mb

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Hi Mark::)

If I want to make the naval version I think that I need to make leading edge like the video not droped slats, no?

Regards.;)

Carlos.
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Great video......the F-4 sure is a complicated aircraft :)

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Hey Carlos, I am not very familiar with the Navy versions. I believe the J model had fixed leading edge slats on the stabilator but did not have slats on the wing. Depending on what picture you see, the inboard wing leading edge slat or flap on the J model is fixed and on some other pictures it is extended so maybe that is a B model or N Not sure. Sorry, my partical experience is with AF version. I have read somewhere that very early E models did not have slatted wings and where modified, someone out there can clarify. If so the RC jet above could in reality could be very accurate with leading edge flaps?

mb