Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

Does anyone know if this product would be safe to use on our jets?? it looks like C02 but not sure. The price is not bad and they would fit easily in a flight box etc.
Thanks,
Vin...

https://www.mycoldfire.com/flare/nex...FQsCbAodinyJ3A

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

I saw the episode of pitchmen.They said it would put out any kind of fire.

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

Funny you should ask Vin! I contacted them on Monday for some samples to see if they really work as advertised and to confirm they are safe to use with our engines. I should have some cans here in just a day or two and will run some testing on the Cold Fire....

Will report my findings...
Todd

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

I would bet its CO2. But what ever it is the cost is better than the Home-depo powered stuff[:-].

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

From an article about the "Pitchmen" episode:

"The inventor wanted to demonstrate by applying the Cold Fire liquid to his arm and putting a blow torch to it. "

That's not CO2...

Bob

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

Wow cant wait to see this product on the shelf.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xtCn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59LcR...eature=related

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

Here some more info:

http://www.firefreeze.com/

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

it's a plant-based chemical that undergoes an endothermic reaction in the presence of heat. (it separates the fuel from oxygen)

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

Someone said
applying the Cold Fire liquid

That can't be CO2 as it is either gas or solid. It comes out of the nozzle differently.

Sounds like great stuff, I can't wait for it to be on sale over here (or is it already?)
It looks as effective as BCF, what about environmental impact?

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

MSDS states that it is water soluble and is not recommended for class C (electrical fires).

That would lead me to think that its a much better alternative to powdered ABC types but

might still do some damage if shot through a turbine.

But anything is better than a blanket or a bucket of sand!

Attachment is the MSDS.


Mike

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

Already for sale at my local hobby shop. Haven't tried it.

Other claims from various sources I've found:

it leaves no residue that has to be cleaned up after the fire is extinguished. It has an indefinite shelf life at temperatures between 32º and 150º F. Freeze-thaw does not effect its stability. It is biodegradable

If you wish to use Cold Fire as a fire extinguisher at home, you can purchase the solution, purchase a pressurizable tank (a one gallon weed sprayer will work), mix them yourself, and pressurize the tank yourself. That is completely legal and acceptable.

100% soluble in water

completely non-toxic, non-corrosive and non-slip.

completely non-corrosive and has an indefinite shelf life. You can put it in a 1.5 or 2.5 gallon extinguisher

When dry it leaves almost no residue

RDR Technologies offers Cold Fire and Cold Fire accessories to the racing industry:

5 gallon pails

55 gallon drums

275 gallon totes

12 oz. spray cans

Pre-mixed and winterized formulas

1.5 and 2.5 gallon extinguishers

2 & 4 liter extinguishers

Firefreeze Worldwide, Inc.
272 Rt. 46 East .. Rockaway, NJ 07866
973-627-0722 .. fax 973-627-2982

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

When the guy sprays it on his arm, it doesn't look like something that would do a turbine any good...

Bob

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

I'd spray the plane if it's on fire but would not shoot it into a running turbine.

Beave

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

I remember back in the '80s the fire marshal at the airline I was flying for would drink a glass of Halon 1211 to show us dumb pilots how safe it was during recurrent training.

He's dead now.

Beave [X(]

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

I emailed firefreeze and this was their reply:

>>Cold Fire is an EPA approved replacement for Halon 1211 and is non-corrosive, but it is a water-based product, so if your electronics can't get wet (like most electronic things) then I wouldn't recommend it.

Doug<<

I would say its ok to put out a wet start.There wouldn`t be any exposed electronic circut boards. I know the elec can withstand and kero bath so this stuff should be fine.
V..

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

LOL

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

I'll stick with CO2. I had a club member squirt a Ram 500 with a dry powder extinguisher. Like to never got the crud out of it, yeah its not a powder but it something that will get into the motor, electronics etc.

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

Well...for $10 a piece...I'd buy 10 of 'em and stash them throughout the house, garage and RV.

Beave

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

I think I'll wait for Mikey to try it. For now it's CO2 or Halon.

Roy

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

that stuff is a gel. Theres no way in hell I would spray it in my turbine. I'll stick with CO2, but like others have said its cheap enough to stick a can in every room. Cool stuff.

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

So, if I spray it in my house, does it leave a residue to clean up?

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

it looks like once it drys there is no buildup residue, but I be it still leaves an invisible film. Another reason not to use in turbine, invisible film that reacts with heat to prevent combustion. I don't think a turbine would like that. but for home you probably wouldn't notice it. I don't have any evidence of any of this, just an observation.

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

No, it isn't a gel. At least not according to the several websights they maintain.

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

I think it does, but whatever's left over is water soluble.

RE: Cold Fire: fire extinguishers??
 

If its not a gel, then what is that slimmy gel looking stuff the guy sprayed all over his arm?