Shoni

Ok first off i'm very new to the R/C car hobbie. So if this has been posted up before I
apologize.

I'm sure many of you have seen this video on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwm8y8jcwGM

As i stated before, i'm new to this. So I think this truck looks pretty sweet and i dig all the aluminum and
especially the Ford body. The whole twin engine thing looks cool, but it seems like it would be very hard
to control the vehicle.

Is this a vehicle kit that can be purchased? I tried reading all the comments on YouTube but there never seems
to be a straight answer on there. Are there other Nitro monster trucks that look similar to this? With the Ford
body and everything?

I'm thinking about getting a monster truck and just kinda need to be lead in the right direction. Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

MadManAndrew

I had the whole post typed up, and accidently clicked on my bookmark bar, so here gos try #2...

The truck on youtube you speak of is a custom chassis truck, which means you can't buy one, but, the Lighning GTX2 from Hotbodies is pretty similar. Thedown side to twin engine RC's is, there is NO performance increase because of all the extra weight added by stuff you have to have to support 2 engines. The HPI Savage by HPI is a single engine MT, similar to both of the previously listed, but faster, easier to tune, and more durable. The savage is a very well known monster truck and I'd highly recomend thats what you get. You'd be very pleased by it. I'd recomend heading over to the HPI MT's forum and readin up on a few things.As for the ford body, thats an aftermarket body made by proline, it can be pruchased at any Hobby Shop but you have to paint it yourslef...
ANDREW

A couple links:
[link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKER3&P=7]Lightning GTX2[/link]
[link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRYP0**&P=ML]Savage X[/link]
[link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXUHD0**&P=ML]Savage XL[/link]
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/forumid_250/tt.htm]HPI MT forum[/link]
[link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKYM2&P=7]Ford F-650 body[/link]

Over_revO

No, there is a power difference, at least if setup properly...

I did a twin engine Truggy and its the quickest truck i have ever owned.

MadManAndrew

maybe on a truggy, but hes talking monster truck, and there is no performance increase with a twin engine monster truck...

Shoni

Sweet! Thank you very much for the info Andrew.

Really appreciate it!

Yeah, i'm not really planning on building a twin engine because it just didn't
look like it was very easy to control. Plus, i'm sure it's quite expensive.

A single engine would be plenty for me. Are there lots of Aluminum upgrades
for the trucks that you suggested? I'm sure there must be. I'll definately get
one sometime soon.

Thanks again!

twomanytoys

Ok here is the scoop on aluminum upgrades. You dont want to upgrade to aluminum unless you have too or if you are making a shelf queen. Aluminum is no good for a working rc truck. Aluminum is heavy and too ridgid. If you add aluminum a arms you will hit something and it will transfer the force of the inpact to more critical components that will be more expensive and harder to replace. The only place aluminum is good for are aluminum clutch shoes, certain bulkheads and shock towers, skid plates and roll cage. Anywhere else is a disaster waiting to happen. I know you are new and I dont want you to make a mistake and spend a ton of extra money on parts that dont do anything but hurt the situation. If you want strong a arms then use RPM a arms. I understand the BLING looks cool but to be honest just about everyone here will frown on a blingy rc truck.

Shoni

Thank you for more info!

Don't worry, you won't hurt my feelings. This is exactly what i'm looking for.
Like you said, i'm new to this, and yes the BLING factor is very cool looking but
I will take all incoming opinions that come my way.

As I stated in the first post, i need to be lead in the right direction for getting into
the nitro Monster Trucks. So your input will definately save me $$$ in the future
by informing me about what is good and what is bad.

Thanks again and keep the suggestions commin!

MadManAndrew

+1, aluminum parts are just for "bling", [link=http://www.rpmrcproducts.com/core.htm]RPM[/link] nylon parts are much more durable...Even the stock composite stuff on the Savage is more durable than Aluminum, plus its waaaay cheaper...

Shoni

What do you guys think about the Savage XL 5.9 4WD RTR truck?

MadManAndrew

The Savage XL is a great truck, you'd love it. But, The XL doesn't pull wheelies like the X or the truck in the vid.If you want a wheelie machine, get the X. If you want an awesome all around truck, that hadnles good, get the XL...

Shoni

Yeah, i think i'd be more down for an all around great truck. The wheelies don't impress me
much. I'd rather have a truck that sticks to the ground and handles well.

It would be a toss up between the 4.6 or 5.9 i guess.

Any pros or cons between those?

And thanks for all your help!!

Over_revO

Something a single engine savage will not do:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgALP095AQI


Imagine you have 2 engines at 2hp (OS.28 as example..)

Lets say a savage monster at 10 pound with 2hp single engine
To have about same performance at 4hp (2 engines) you will have to get close to 20 pound, a little less for the added inertia blabla...

2 engines on the same spur, my truggy weighted 12 pound, each engines had 2.4hp
its 2.4hp per 6 pound. Its like running a Drag modified Picco .28 in a Jato that could have 4WD....

If you cant tune, it will not be a lot faster. If you know how to tune and its setup properly, it IS quicker.
Truggy, onroad, monster make no difference its only rotating parts.

If you compare a savage .28 to a twin engine truck like a Twin titan with 2 low quality Force .26, then yes the savage will be quicker and feel lighter. But run 2 similar engine as the savage on it and i guarantee you it will be stronger.


Is it worth it? yes and no, it depend if you really want one, it is not needed for most case unless you get 2 powerful engines, imo you better do it all out power or run single engine.

warheadforever

One other aluminum part that wont hurt anything, are shocks. They look nice and really don't make any difference.
RPM is great for 3 reasons, 1 it is cheap, 2 it is very resilient, 3 it has good customer support to back it up.

SAVAGEJIM

Many twin engine trucks out there today are custom RCs. But there are some that come that way amd you can even find New Model Era kits that will convert many differecnt kinds of trucks into twin engine trucks.

Here is a great looking truck, I think this one uses the Savage TruckZilla twin engine kit, this guy opted to mount 2x 4strokes and gear way high. (He probably had to custome fab 30T CB pinion and a 40T steel spur to harness the higher torque and make up for the 4-strokers' lower RPM range).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioGFZ...eature=related

doug702

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check out my twin engine project (look at my pics)

doug702

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i just finished my twin engine mammoth ill post pics later tonight

doug702

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heres a pic of my twin

doug702

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mine hauls ass i didnt sacrifice any power or speed by building this truck and mine is easy to tune

Twin24Maxx

I have a twin XTM engine on a custom built chassis, using a T-Maxx platform. It is wicked fast and with the right shock package, is very stable. I made a two speed Trans for it and a full roll cage. And it will hit 61 mph.