Question about engine flooding when starting
 

Ok I have broken in my tmaxx 2.5 and tuned it to what I thought was a little rich of optimum performance(I heard it helped your engine last lo9nger if its richer vs leaner, rich on the high speed). I left the low speed factory setting and I tuned the idle all the way counter clockwise and the enigne was still not dieing, the manuel said to tune the idle as low as possible while keeping it still running, well mine still ran withthe thing all the way out. Anyway I tuned it back a little until it reved to high then set there.
Problem is I have gotten my engine to start and all but often when I try to start it for the day the easy start 2 wont let it. It is flooding (my best guess) and I dont know what setting is causeing this. occasionally Ican pour out fule from my exhaust.

Any sugestions is appreciated, Also If I am unclear plz tell
Forcelite

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

if it is flooded, you can take out the glow plug(make sure there

is no dirt around it) use a towel or paper towel cover the heatsink

then use your EZ starter to crank the engine several times.

that will get the extra fuel out of the engine.

WARNING, dont get any dirt into the engine

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

Flooding will make it difficult to start on any engine....and the EZ start is of course making the start up a little easier than pulling a chord...or having to fork over $$$ for a starter box.

That being said....As obvious as this is.....Try avoiding flooding the engine.....easier said than done, right?

Also....just before your ready to start the engine....you can back the glow plug out about 1/8 to 1/4 turn to allow the engine to start easier......once started....just remove the glow igniter and tighten the glow plug.

If my engine does get flooded....I usually remove the glow plug and turn the rig upside down....and using the EZ starter.....turn the engine over several times to get rid of the excess fuel. Then....put the glow plug back in and try starting it.

Good Luck! :)

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

Thanks for the info guys but the dang thing floods all the time. Only when I first try and start it. So I must have the low speed or idle set wrong, right? Also I was thinking about what you said about taking out the glow plug and using ez start to get rid of the excess fule. Wont that ust pull more fuel in while spitting the rest out? Should I use the ez start AND pinch the fuel line to prevent more from coming?

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

forcelite.....One other thing that sticks in my mind.....is....check the fuel tank lid and make sure after you fill it up....that the lid is making a good seal.....if it's not sealing properly....it could in effect....be causing the fuel to easily run into the carb and cause a flooding problem. It's just a thought. :)

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ahh ok thanks. Seal looks good. Could this be an ideling setting problem. Also this is only my 8th tank and some say it gets better with every tank (up to a point), also pinch or no pinch?

Thanks again

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

Hmmmm....well as for the idling.....you can take off the carb filter so you can look inside the barrel of the carb to see how open it is....do this with your radio turned on so your servos are set in the neutral position...and be sure that the throttle trim setting on your radio is set to the neutral position. Once you know that it is....look and see if your cab is open a little? 1mm or so....or if it's beyond that....then adjust the idle screw to bring it back to 1mm setting.

Also...have you tried the fuel line pinch test? With the engine warmed up....after several runs....stop your rig....and then pinch the fuel line (going to the carb) and see how long it takes for the engine to die. It should run for about 5 seconds....at the most. If it dies quickly....then the low speed needle is set to lean....you'll need to turn it counterclockwise....about 1/8 inch. Do this procedure until your engine finally dies at or around the 5 second mark. REMEMBER....Once you make an adjustment to the low speed needle...you'll need to make several high speed passes to help clear out any fuel that may cause an inaccurate reading. Of course....your doing all of this now because your past the break in procedure....not while your still breaking in the engine.

The factory high speed needle setting is set at 4 turns out.....that is what you should be making your adjustments to while your trying to help the engine perform a little better (leaner)....but be careful.....only small turns on the needle (1/8 turns) as you do this.....then run a few high speed passes and check the engine performance again.

Gee....did I forget anything? :)

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i'm having the same prob with my savage, except it eventually starts after about 10,000,000 quick pulls, i have about 10 tanks through, and am about 3 1/4 turns out on hsn and it is still very rich...i think i can go another 1/4 turn in the next couple tanks. i have a starter box for my rc10gt and that starts it right up...nice! :D

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ya just tried again and I took out glow plug and then used ez start AND pinched line to limit fuel. Then I tried to start once everything was back on, the engine tried to start for 4 seconds then back to locking up, damnit I just started it yesterday without problems, these damn gas cars are so much trouble.

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

you have broken in the engine, so it is not a new engine.

when i was breaking in my savage, i had to loose the glow plug

a little to start it.

you can try to open 1/4 throttle, then start it. after it starts,

turn on the radio system, hit a short full throttle to clean the left

over fuel.

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

forcelite.....Have you also checked the nut that holds the carb onto the engine? Mine came loose so I tightened it and that helped my situation......the off and on starting type of problem.

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

Also....I know it's been mentioned....and your getting frustrated....but when you have the glow plug out....place it in the glow igniter and look at the coil as it's glowing. Does the entire coil glow evenly? If you have doubts....try a new glow plug. You would be surprised if it started right up! :)

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i dont think he has a igniter, he has a tmaxx which has EZ starter

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

Another point to consider or try....is to remove the wire going to the glow plug.....and put a freshly charged glow plug igniter directly onto the glow plug.....using that as your heat source to start the engine with. I know it sounds a little off....but I finally took my blue wire off and now only use the glow igniter to heat up the plug. That way I always know I have a good heat source getting to the glow plug.

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LandShark....It doesn't matter.....you can simply remove the blue wire that goes to the glow plug....and use a glow igniter to heat the glow plug. The EZ starter will still turn the engine...it just will not be supplying the heat to the glow plug since he will have removed the blue wire that sends heat to the plug from the same battery that powers the EZ start.

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

thanks guys for all your help. I am alot calmer now and will try the loosen your glow plug before you start it thing, I seem to have remember reading that it helps somewhere else too. I also will try a new glow plug even though this one has only seen 2 tanks.

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

my blue wire is damaged and my truck starts better with a glow plug igniter

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

When I was breaking in my new TMaxx....I was going through "one plug per tank of fuel".....Yep....you read that right! I was using the Traxxas brand plugs and finally switched back to my #8 OS plugs and have not had any more problems.

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

heh, they dont tell you that on the front of the box,\
Im guessing this gets better with the age of the engine, hoping I guess.

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

Yes....it gets better.....once the piston/sleeve is seated (broken in) you'll notice an easier time with starting the engine.

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

forcelite, My buddy just got a 2.5 T-Maxx and we broke it in yesterday. He was having the same problem. I noticed that after fueling the tank, when he closed the lid, it would pressurize the tank, forcing fuel in to the engine and it would flood. I think the fix might be to loosen the o-ring on the lid just a tad so that it doesn't pressurize the tank so much. He dealt with it by re-fueling with the engine running, but it still loads up when he closes the lid. You can hear the engine starting to load. So then he would gun the throttle to blow out the crankcase and it would run fine. Hope this helps.
Scott

Question about engine flooding when starting
 

I think another problem was that my battery for ez start was bad. Thanks for the tank advice and Iwill look at it