Nitro Kits?
 

I am planning on getting a xxx nt rtr but I have second thoughts. I was wondering a couple of things about kits. Are they hard to build? Are they fun to build? Is it hard to find the right stuff for them (like servos and engine)? Ok, not lets say i get the adam drake kit for $320.00, I get a good, not expensive, legal sized engine (please tell me one), and i get the servos and recievers and controller and stuff, now how much do you think all of that stuff wouyld cost all together ( remember I dont need the "best" stuff, I'm only gonna be racing for fun , not seriously.


~Freak[8D]

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just get the XXX NT kit then...

http://www.mini*********.com/index.a...ROD&ProdID=773

Than get the motor and radio..

http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...prod=JRP234275

comes w/ a 270 and 590mg servo...

For motors, chose whatever for what your budjet allows.

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What does it mean by "complete" radio system? Also what engine will fit that kit that is a good 150 to 200$ engine? And finally is it hard to build kits because I dont want to get stuck on it or something because I'm slightly new to rc.


~Freak[8D]

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If its your first real R/C than i would go with a RTR. It will make it alot easier on you and you can have fun with the stock engine on the xxx-nt.

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You'd be better off with the Airtronics MX-3. More features (i.e. 3 channels) but still inexpensive. If you become more into racing you'll want that third channel.

If you want to be race-legal, which is a good idea if there's some chance you might race in the future, if not now, get a .12 size engine. I've been told that the Sirio's, Picco's, and RB concept's are the fastest race-legal engines, and that you really can't go wrong with any of these since they're pretty equal. Those run from $130 to $200. There is an Adam Drake Sirio that is coming out in less than a month that's tuned specifically for the XXX NT, but that'll cost you about $185. It'd be a nice match for an Adam Drake kit if you want to go high-end, which is what I'll probably do.

The servos that come with the MX-3 will do fine for running around your front yard and such, but if you get really into racing you'll need better ones. But if you're going to cut costs somewhere, this is where I'd do it. That way if you decide to race, you can spend $100 on servos and you've got a top-notch machine. You're only out $30 bucks with the MX-3 ($120 w/servos, $90 w/out), which is practically nothing. If you get a cheaper engine and medium servos, you'll have to replace both eventually (for about $300). Same goes with the radio...spend an extra 20-30 bucks now to avoid spending at least $100 or so later.

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RTR's are NOT a good way to get into the hobby. Learn how to build a kit and you'll be way ahead when it comes time to repair and you'll have an understanding of the mechanics of your car which will allow you to troubleshoot any problems you'll ever encounter in the future. RTR's are for people who know what they're doing already but just don't want to take the time to build a kit. At least thats my opinion.

I built my first nitro 6 years ago (rc10 gt) and it really wasn't hard at all. I enjoyed it, and had it together in a couple of days. I recently bought a T4 kit and that probably took me four hours to put together, so that shows you how little time it takes once you really know your stuff :D I think kits are excelent ways to get into the hobby, and are great for anyone who is looking for a higher quality end product.

All that said when you get your kit, the xr2i is an awesome radio. I use an xr3i for most of my stuff, but the xr2i has many of the same features. When it says "complete radio system" that means it comes with everything you need to get a model going. Transmitter, reciever, servos, and a battery holder + switch harness.

As far as engines go, you'll be surprised at how well a cheaper engine will move your truck. I've been running the o.s. .12cvx for years and its never let me down. I think you can find them most places for around $100 bucks, and unless you become an absolute serious racer it will give you all the power you'll ever want. The x at the end of the engine name means its a pullstart, which is an inexpensive way to get your engine started. I used one in my GT up until this summer when i got a starterbox. If you can afford a starterbox plus batteries to go with it, i would really recommend it as they eliminate almost all of the hassle of starting your engines.

Good luck to you and i hope you enjoy building your kit!

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So how much do you think it will cost al together? and what parts would you reccomend me getting, I will be racing but not a completly seriuos..? And what engine and reciecver and all that stuff would you reccomend (only the parts that are important reccomend to me). and tell me evrything that I'll need and if your kind enough please tell which ones to get for the "not serious but not beggining" racer in the middle.
Thanks you all so much for helping me with all this!!!!!:D


~Freak[8D]

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Complete radio system is The Radio, Batteries, Reciever, and Servos. I would just get the kit. I would because your going to break it eventually you might as well know how to take it apart and put it together.. I see alot of RTR guys come into the LHS w/ broken parts and asking how to fix it.

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Does the Batteries include a Battery box? Or just batteries. Also you didnt reccommend any engine or servos to me, I dont know what one to get, so please help.


~Freak

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Sorry I am asking so many questions. It because I really want to build a kit but I dont want to buy all the stuff and have them not fit or not be powerful enough or worst of all not have it work at all! So this is the reason for all of these questions.

P.S.
All the info you guys are giving me is soo helpfull, I dont know how to thatnk you guys enough for what your doing for me.


~Freak[8D]

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Building the kit will be a little more expensive than the rtr but you'll have a better machine in the end. As i said before get the os .12vcx engine, JR xr2i radio with servos, and you'll be all set for an engine and radio. The JR radio comes with some very decent servos that you really should never have to upgrade.

I run my RC10GT with an os .12 and a pair of cheapo tower hobbies ts53 servos and i've never had any problems :) So yea get the OS engine and JR radio and you'll be happy, i promise.

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Gotta agree here! This will definately give you an edge up on performing your own repairs later plus building is half the fun!! Losi has exceptional directions and lots of great pics in their manual! I keep a Dynamite .12 SPD in my box as a backup. They make great first motors. You can get one for under a benjamin and after you learn to tune then you can get a higher hp motor later!!!!

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BTW the Jr Radio does come w/ 2 Servos, I dont know if you read that or not. The Z270 for the throttle, and the Z590 for the Steering. The 590 is Metal Geared. I have yet to run into problems.

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Just add up the cost of...
1) the kit (choose how much you want to spend)
2) the radio and electronics ($100 or so on average, i.e. the Airtronics MX3 runs $100-120 with servos)
3) the engine ($100-130 for something good, up to $200 for high-end)
4) glow igniter, 12-v starter (if you need one) with battery and charger, etc. (anywhere from $20-70)

The RTR's usually come with lower-end stuff, so it isn't fair to compare that to the price of a high-end setup. Even if you buy a $100 engine, it's almost surely better than whatever they put in the RTR. You will need to buy the support equipment regardless, I think. So in short, a kit setup will cost you anywhere from $360 to $600 without support equipment. You can go cheaper than $360, but you're drifting into RTR quality.

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The XXX NT sport isnt made in america like the kits BTW.

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...which means the parts break easier, or so I've heard.

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So what kit do you think I should get? I'm looking at the xxx nt kit or the rc10gt kit.

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Are you telling me to get this engine,because there is no "vcx" engine, only cvx.

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/706101.asp


~Freak[8D]

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Also which radio would be better with stronger servos, the airtronics mx3 with 2 servos or the jr xr2i radio with 2 servos?

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LOSI IS COMMUNIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![&:]

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I have never ran an airtronics, but.. I have the Jr stuff.. I have broken ballstuds in the linkage and never hurt the servo. I have never adjusted the servo saver BTW.

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If you want something nicer try one of the cheaper Picco's or Sirio's. I don't know about all the different versions, just that these particular ones are great racing engines but can be found for about the price of the OS. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...G5206&C=GCSTRA

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Omega Piccos are pretty cheap.

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The Airtronics is a budget radio that has an exceptional number of features. Generally, Airtronics radios (I'm especially familiar with their RD heli series) offer the same features as JR and Futaba equivalents at lower prices. i.e. the RD8000 is their top of the line heli transmitter and features 8 channels for the price of most 6 or 7 channel radios. They're just as reliable (and very well trusted), but not as fancy as JR and Futaba. Between these two radios, it's your choice. I think it's worth going with Airtronics because of the 3rd channel and the fact that the Futaba and JR ones in this price range aren't any fancier, and if anything, a little cheaper looking. None of the servos that come with a radio like this are that good, but they'll work fine for now. Better servos should probably be one of your first upgrades, though.

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What about Hitec? They rock.[8D]