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doyab 08-31-2005 03:50 AM

engine running backwards
 
Hi today i started my car and it started backwards i had to start it 4 or 5 times before it went the right way does anyone know why it did that

econ909 08-31-2005 08:22 AM

RE: engine running backwards
 
is it new? or just rebuilt.
what are you using to start it?

losixxx-nt 08-31-2005 01:38 PM

RE: engine running backwards
 
wow i have never heard on a engine starting backwards lol[X(]

gubbs3 08-31-2005 01:53 PM

RE: engine running backwards
 
That is not something completely "against the rules." A two-stroke engine can easily run backwards, the only difference is the timing of the engine is retarded rather than advanced. This means that it will make virtually no power and as soon as you hit the gas it will die. It is more common in airplanes where they use a stick to flip the prop over. It is common practice then to flip the prop backwards rather than forwards because as the engine fires, it will usually kick it back in the other direction, the correct way.

I assume you are using a starter box because a one-way bearing in a pull start or rotostart would prevent this. When you start it, try holdin down on the box a little longer instead of a quick bump. That will help get a forward start more consistently.

supersly_jones 08-31-2005 01:59 PM

RE: engine running backwards
 
if its an ezstart maybe wires were backwards

jkulhanek 08-31-2005 07:06 PM

RE: engine running backwards
 


ORIGINAL: gubbs3

A two-stroke engine can easily run backwards, the only difference is the timing of the engine is retarded rather than advanced. This means that it will make virtually no power and as soon as you hit the gas it will die.
In spark ignition engines yes, but in glow engines the timing is automatic therefore an engine can run backwards with the correct timing..

The reason they dont put out much power is because the crank port or rotary valve is WAY off timing when engines are running backwards.

montrealer 08-31-2005 08:32 PM

RE: engine running backwards
 
Geez,

And some people complain they don't have a reverse on their nitro RC's and you , lucky man, have it full time...

Duh !....

badz 08-31-2005 10:48 PM

RE: engine running backwards
 


ORIGINAL: supersly_jones

if its an ezstart maybe wires were backwards

One way bearing won't let a ez start fire a engine backwards unless the one way bearings installed backwards.
Sounds to me like one way bearing is backwards and so is pull starter.

gubbs3 09-01-2005 12:00 AM

RE: engine running backwards
 


ORIGINAL: jkulhanek



ORIGINAL: gubbs3

A two-stroke engine can easily run backwards, the only difference is the timing of the engine is retarded rather than advanced. This means that it will make virtually no power and as soon as you hit the gas it will die.
In spark ignition engines yes, but in glow engines the timing is automatic therefore an engine can run backwards with the correct timing..

The reason they dont put out much power is because the crank port or rotary valve is WAY off timing when engines are running backwards.
Sorry, I didn't specify. The ignition timing won't change, the position of the crank port is incorrect when running backwards, obviously then the intake timing.

I believe MVVS makes an airplane engine the can run either standard or reverse direction. It features a two-piece crankcase where the front half (containing the bearings and carb) rotates about 90 degrees to correct the intake timing.

doyab 09-01-2005 01:01 AM

RE: engine running backwards
 
It is a xtm x-cellerator and it has a pull start

Grantothismo 09-01-2005 07:58 AM

RE: engine running backwards
 
doyab:

In my early days of Nitro RC, I put my one way bearing in wrong. The thing always started in reverse as they can do. Is your one way bearing in right?

Since its the middle of summer, cold should not be a factor, but when trying to start them when they are really cold - the extra compression will sometimes kick them into reverse. My OS never has, but my HPI 18SS would regulary do it. Once the engine is warmed up, it would start and run fine.

econ909 09-01-2005 09:34 AM

RE: engine running backwards
 
i tried tp start my buggies engine in reverse it started but then it kicked it self back the right way after a couple of wierd sputters.


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