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spaks 12-19-2005 02:56 PM

mashers on a jato??
 
so is it true its not good to put mashers on a jato??? because thats what i was planning on doing if not well that sucks

APEXdriver89 12-19-2005 02:58 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 
idk if its good or not cuz i put some on my electric rustler :D i would ask around more b4 i did it

David D 12-19-2005 03:21 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 
The work great for jumping, but you will loose your handling.

smokingcrater 12-19-2005 05:41 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 
it will roll over REALLY easy, and you will also gain some topend at the expense of low end torque. I run mashers in the winter just to gain some extra ground clearance.

spaks 12-19-2005 08:15 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 
well i live in the desert and im planning on taking it to some construction sites where theres gonna be alot of loose dirt and i just the the mashers would be the best

BashinFun 12-19-2005 08:39 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 
Actually smokin crater sorry to correct you, but the bigger the tire is, the more acceleration and less top end.

APEXdriver89 12-20-2005 03:00 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 
actually bashinfun, he is correct u loose exceleration b/c there is more tire to turn from a dead stop but when the car gets goin, more rotation means more speed...he is correct...silly liberal

spaks 12-20-2005 03:46 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 
how about these on all 4

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/626791.asp

smokingcrater 12-20-2005 05:45 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 

ORIGINAL: APEXdriver89

actually bashinfun, he is correct u loose exceleration b/c there is more tire to turn from a dead stop but when the car gets goin, more rotation means more speed...he is correct...silly liberal
thanks... for some reason LOTS of people don't understand that. ok, time for a math lesson... lets all agree that your geartrain is constant... you axle is going to turn at the same rpm no matter what tire you have hooked up to it, so if your engine turns at say 20000 rpm, the axle turns at 5000 rpm.

ok, got that part down, now lets say we have a 4 inch tire turning at 5000, so it moves 12.56 inches every time around. that times 5000 gives you inches per minute (62800), divided by 12 gives you ft/minute (5233), and finally times 60 and divided by 5280 gives you mph. (59 mph in this example)

now lets say you put those mashers on. same engine, so that still turns at 20000 and your axles still move at 5000 rpm, since you haven't touched gearing. run those numbers above with a 5 inch tire (which is what a masher is), and you get 92 mph.


so, you increased your tire size from 4 inches to 5 inches, and gained a theoritical 30 mph! in practice there are many other variables, the biggest one is your gearing and engine, but in general a bigger tire means faster vehicle and slower acceleration.


badz 12-20-2005 05:46 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 
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ORIGINAL: spaks

so is it true its not good to put mashers on a jato??? because thats what i was planning on doing if not well that sucks


It add's stress to rod ends...thats it...doesn't take away much performance and doesn't make it roll over any easier and doesn't affect handling at all matter a fact it grips better and improves handling in soft dirts and sand...I run them on mine sometimes..


dannthenitroman 12-20-2005 05:52 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 
EDIT: sorry i didnt read right, my bad.

Dann

smokingcrater 12-20-2005 05:55 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 

ORIGINAL: dannthenitroman

???? smokingcrater just argued with himself :):):):eek:

Dann

... and you will also gain some topend at the expense of low end torque. ...

and

... increased your tire size from 4 inches to 5 inches, and gained a theoritical 30 mph! in practice there are many other variables, the biggest one is your gearing and engine, but in general a bigger tire means faster vehicle and slower acceleration. ...



nope, last I checked those meant the same... bashinfun's opinion was 'Actually smokin crater sorry to correct you, but the bigger the tire is, the more acceleration and less top end.'

if you want to play with the math without getting dirty head on over here...
http://www.csgnetwork.com/speedcalc.html

try different tire sizes without changing any other variable and see what happens.

dannthenitroman 12-20-2005 06:11 PM

RE: mashers on a jato??
 
my bad

no i completely get it i just read the thread wrong :D

Dann


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