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Dare82 10-07-2006 12:26 AM

Rustler flipping
 
So this has been annoying the heck outa me for a while now. Once I got past about 25-30 mph, my car just flips with a tap of the steering. I tried using the shock spacers to see what I can do about it, but no luck. I'm guessing the truck is too high off the ground so it flips very easily. Anyone know what I should do? What kind of springs will fit on the stock shocks that will lower my truck a bit?

Woodmandan2 10-07-2006 01:28 AM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
get it lower to the ground. right now it is problay top heavy
Dan

MetallicaJunkie 10-07-2006 05:46 AM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
either that or your shocks need more damping, maybe they need more shock oil

125cchyperman 10-07-2006 11:47 AM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
No it's traction roll over. To high of CG (Center of gravity) Lower the truck as much as possible. What weight shock oil are you using now. You could try and lighten some things on the top. Or you could try some wider arms if they make them. Dont put more pre load spacers in as this will raise the ride height of your truck and will make the springs stiffer then what they are now. And thats not what you need right now.

Lower it, depending on the shock oil you are using right not you may want to use different oil and maybe lighten the thing so it will not be as heavy on the top.

Dare82 10-07-2006 04:31 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
How would I lower it? Will I need new springs? My car is all stock right now, so the shock oil is stock also. I think it's 30w, but not sure. Oh yea, I took out the spacers a long time ago. Does anyone know what kind of springs will fit on my Rustler that will lower it?

125cchyperman 10-07-2006 05:01 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
Change the shock positions on the truck. You could go to a softer spring which will alow the truck to sit lower but you would need to go up on the shock weight oil. Or get a anti roll bar if you can get them for the rusty I dont know. But some thigs can change the ride height and thats what you need to do, is to get the ride height as low as possible for this application. But if you try and go off road you will get stuck more and your truck will bottom out more, so you might want to put in some shock limiters so it doesnt do some damage.

annie_himself 10-07-2006 09:31 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
Take off some spacer, stiffer springs and oil. You will loose traction and stability but it will turn faster and flip less.

dannthenitroman 10-07-2006 10:20 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
No way not on the NR.

Put about 8mm of fuel tube for shock limiters in the shocks. that will fix most of it. oh, and why are you driving onroad, it wont flip unless its onroad or close to it.

Dann

125cchyperman 10-08-2006 12:55 AM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
As I said and dan has said add some shock limiters and drop the thing and you should be good.

Dare82 10-09-2006 03:25 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
Do you guys have any suggestions for softer springs?(Brand, How soft, front, rear, etc?) I don't know much about aftermarket parts for this truck.

46u 10-09-2006 04:34 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
You did not say if you are running on road or off road but on off road to help cut down on traction roll you can cut off the spikes, or what ever on the edges of the tire.

Dare82 10-09-2006 09:46 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
I run this truck onroad most of the time. Not even sure why...I guess it's more visible than a 1/10 onroad? :)

lilevil 10-15-2006 09:03 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
my step-dad has the same truck and had the same problem...all he did was buy a t-maxx 2.5 sock set, it was expensive but it fixed the problem completly! he gets it going full speed and it will turn w/o flipping, it either spins out or the foward momentom overrides the direction of the front tires and makes them slide...like while already moving foward on ice. but the thing will not flip. it may be expensive but the plus' are no flipping nd u have great extra shocks incase anything happens.

Dare82 10-16-2006 06:52 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
Are the T-Maxx shocks direct fit?

lilevil 10-17-2006 01:15 AM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
yea they fit right on there. just the shocks will be a little compressed cause the rustler isn't as big as the t-maxx but thats also good cause u won't have to worry about damaging ur shocks, cause is they can handle a t-maxx abuse they can handle a rustler abuse.

dannthenitroman 10-17-2006 05:22 AM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
What, no way, stiffer springs, no stupid tmaxx shocks. waste of cash.

Dann

tommythecat 10-17-2006 08:22 AM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
Seriously man, don't mess with buying anything before you try installing some limiters in the existing shocks, it's free and will fix your problem up. Of course, if you go broadside at high speed and catch the edge of a tire, you are always going to flip, but putting some fuel tub in to limit your shock travel will reduce how often you roll drastically.

On the t-maxx shocks. I bought my rustler as a roller, and it had the same exact shocks as my t-maxx, only the front shocks had internal downtravel limiters installed. I always just assumed that the rusty and the maxx use the same shocks. Does the stock trx 2.5 rusty come with different shocks than the t-maxx? Doh I just looked and notice they have differnet part numbers for the shocks for the front and rear of the rusty, but after looking at it, it looks like they are what I have, the exact same shocks as came on the trx 2.5 t-maxx only with internal limiters in the front pair. The shafts might also be a bit shorter, I wasn't willing to take them apart just to see, but the other shock parts are all identical.

dpawl 10-17-2006 12:12 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
I am not sure what you guys mean with the tubing. You talking over the shaft?

scottywilkes 10-17-2006 04:16 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
u put it on the ahaft inside the shock body so it limits how far the piston can go down, so it lowers your ride height, its a good little trick and works the treats as well, i did it to my evader for fun and dropped it till it was nearly toughing the ground, dam did it handle like a dream, but i like offraod more so i raised her nack up and took the tubing out :D

gunit6 10-17-2006 06:11 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
does it flip o just the street, or just the dirt also????

dart_20002001 10-18-2006 08:06 AM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
um i read most of this forum and i think your all going wrong direction i have a rustler i run the 2.5 with 20% no body currently bald back tires new front my old shocks took a crap so i put older socks i had from a other car (not running :) sorry if someone said this but i run realy soft shocks and mid springs on back on front i run hard shocks with mid springs it's funny when i turn i get front tire in air and if your new to rc a small turn means alot with a small whell base you have to feel the turns out know what you rc car can and can't do i did this for long time and broke manya things on it and haveing a rustler you should know that it can do 50 mph out of the box just work on slow turns at high speed i worked my car hard but have taken care of it im working on my 10 th gallon of fuel good luck

Nitronutt 10-18-2006 10:51 AM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
I'm surprised that nobody mentioned increasing the negative camber of the tires/wheels (At the very least - on the front).

You can do this by tightening the camber links. Just be sure to make them the same length. When you increase negative camber, the tops of your tires grow closer together than the bottom and the tires are able to push slightly instead of traction rolling.

Dare82 10-18-2006 06:35 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 

I'm surprised that nobody mentioned increasing the negative camber of the tires/wheels (At the very least - on the front).

You can do this by tightening the camber links. Just be sure to make them the same length. When you increase negative camber, the tops of your tires grow closer together than the bottom and the tires are able to push slightly instead of traction rolling.
I actually tried this, and unusually, the truck flipped even easier.

chrobar 10-18-2006 09:39 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
You must have the opposite camber. There is no way that negative camber will increase the tendence that of you truck flipping over.

Dare82 10-18-2006 10:22 PM

RE: Rustler flipping
 
The tops of the tire are closer to each other while the bottom is outward. I fixed it back to stock settings. Oh yea, I just installed some shock limiters in the rear shocks and the arms are now flat with the chassis. I can't wait to run this baby. :D


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